Stadium News XVI:: Yes Virginia, There is NO Santa Claus

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  1. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    No.
     
  2. DCSharksFC

    DCSharksFC Member

    Feb 28, 2003
    Virginia Tech
    FFS, roll up those sleeves and get to it, c'mon chang/mcfarlane/co., we need our own stadium!

    at the least, can we get a solid deal that won't actually hurt us at RFK?
     
  3. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    From Goff's release it says there are "issues" with Greenbelt, not that it's 100 DOA. McFarlane as any smart businessman would do, is looking for a contingency plan.
     
  4. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    You're right. My reaction was inappropriate for an unstickied thread.:rolleyes:
     
  5. equus

    equus Member

    Jan 6, 2007
    Even better than deconstructing FedEx totally to make an SSS, you could do what Vancouver is doing with BC Place and their fabric roof plan.

    You could lower the roof to make FedEx Field into a 25-30K SSS (what's the capacity of just the lower level?) and then if you wanted a 90K World Cup venue or venue for international tourneys, friendlies, etc., you lift the roof to the top of the stadium and you're done.

    The company that does this: http://www.tenarafabric.com/gallery.html

    Before:
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    After (very rough Photoshopping):
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    I'm not factoring in the economics of building versus retrofitting in this render. Just food for thought.
     
  6. CrimsonChin00

    CrimsonChin00 New Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now its on to Loudoun County. That would be sweet.
     
  7. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    No. No it wouldn't be.
     
  8. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    That roof cost $200 Million.
     
  9. La Barra Blonde

    Oct 21, 2007
    Section 135
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. No metro and henious traffic. Not to mention nearly an hour from DC.
     
  10. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A. Why the hell does DC United need a full roof?

    B. Fed Ex Field's actual Field is too small for international play. I doubt United would sink money into a facility that's not going to bring the National Team.

    C. The best plan for Fed Ex includes TNT and/or C4.
     
  11. dcchelseafc

    dcchelseafc Moderator
    Staff Member

    DC United
    Sep 2, 2005
    Naptown
    Club:
    DC United
    get rid of the stupid 3k$ dream seats and it should fit for intl duty.
    but its very tight.....getting there sucks, the stadium sucks, security sucks, dan snyder sucks, the 10$ sucks......everything about that stadium sucks (including the skins right now), other than you can fit a small country of people on it
     
  12. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    What they would need to demolish are the first 4-5 rows all around the field - Thats a lot of retrofitting - I think its probably better to build the stadium on the parking lot grounds closest to the Metro
     
  13. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Contingency is probably New Carrollton

    :eek:
     
  14. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Which is fine with me. Just build the damn thing....
     
  15. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium

    • As has been pointed out, FedEx is too small for a regulation soccer field. There are concrete walls preventing it, so it's not as if you can just remove some temporary bleachers
    • From your rendering, half the punts in a match would hit something in that roof assembly
    • $$$$
     
  16. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    However, in light of the never ending stream of NO F^CKIN REAL NEWS about a stadium, we've got to admit that equus did successfully offer up some 'thought food' for us to chew on, although I'm not sure much thinking was required.

    Having now chewed and spit it out, what non-news and idle speculation shall we focus on next?
     
  17. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't even think about it. Fed Ex Field is an unbelievably disastrous & dumb stadium that is horrific to drive into and out of on game day. It's a catastrophic monument to the raging egomania of Jack Kent Cooke. Gulag architecture. The only reasonable thing to do with the Big Jack, from a sports standpoint, is to implode it, hopefully sooner rather than later.
     
  18. equus

    equus Member

    Jan 6, 2007

    Uh...thanks. I think. :D

    Seriously, I hope the powers-that-be can get their collective $#!+ together and get you guys an SSS to be proud of. You deserve it.
     
  19. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You thought correctly...the thinking part referred to us, not you.
     
  20. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    With Dan Snyder standing at the 50 yard line.
     
  21. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    Wouldn't it be a lot easier to drive to if only 25,000 people were going?
     
  22. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a very dreary, unimaginative stadium located on a relatively inaccessible parcel of land. Well, they did put in a Metro station within a reasonable walking distance of Fed Ex Field. Greenbelt (which is near the Capital Beltway, a Metro Station and the major north/south MARC/Amtrak train lines -- and would be more accessible to fans coming from Montgomery County, MD, Baltimore, Northern Virginia and the District) would be a far better location.

    Really, the Big Jack in and of itself isn't that special. Ravens Stadium (a/k/a M&T Bank Stadium), which is about a half-hour north or so north on I-95 is far, far, far superior in style & quality even though both stadiums were built about the same time. Which is another way of saying that Jack Kent Cooke built Fed Ex Field on the cheap. The smart thing for D.C. United to do would be to start from scratch.
     
  23. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Stadiums are almost always easier to tear down then re-fit. I don't see us ever playing at FedEx. But things are so bad with the stadium silence, god only knows where we'll be playing in a few years.
     
  24. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Particularly since they do it all by themselves.

    From an Aug. 27, 1999, Washington Post story:
     
  25. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    You completely ignored my question, though. I'm not a fan of FedEx field whatsoever but it's impossible to argue that it would not be substantially easier to get in and out of with 25,000 people going instead of 90,000.
     

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