Stadium Envy

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Z010 Union, Nov 30, 2004.

  1. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing I really respect about Baltimore is how truly great their fans are -- especially at Ravens games. (Baseball for me = zzzzzz.) A nice memory of old Memorial Stadium was that it was set on the edge of a townhouse neighborhood and you could see the townhouses out the end of the end zone/centerfield. The worst memory I have about Memorial was watching a game against Seattle on a wretchedly cold Sunday afternoon in early December -- the wind seemed to be whistling along the horseshoe shape of the stadium and my friend & I were sitting near the top row on an aluminum bench. Brrrrrr!
     
  2. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, I've never seen any statistics for team attendance for the Crew and the Galaxy before and after each team's SSS was open. Wonder if there really was much difference. Guess I could figure that out easily enough, but I better skip out on you guys, quit goofing off and get back to work.
     
  3. bofahey

    bofahey Member

    Sep 1, 2001
    Washington, DC
    In addition to previously mentioned MCI, the new agreement with MLB gives MLB both the rights to the revenue from the new ballpark's naming rights and the rights to choose who to sell the naming rights to.

    If a SSS is ever built in DC, you can rest assured it will have a corporate name.
     
  4. gnat

    gnat New Member

    Oct 1, 2003
    Is there anything the city DOES get (besides saying a bb team plays in the city limits) from this whole deal?? I'm actually surprised that is getting past the Feds since it's all/mostly city money that is building the damn thing.

    I wouldn't hold my breath. They aren't bending over backwards to bring a MLS team to DC ...

    I know it's a revenue thing, but i'd be happy if they went with something simple like "DC United Stadium" or "United Park" or some such. As long as DCU gets some of the money and it doesn't have any politicians name in it, i'll be happy.

    -dave
     
  5. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's okay, someone else will go in your place. Besides, I'd go to games at Kim Il Sung stadium as long as it was a new SSS and not that sh!tbox RFK. Lots of good memories there, but let's face it - it's a dump.
     
  6. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    http://www.kenn.com/soccer/mls/columbus.html
    "the jump from 1998 to 1999 is the second-biggest in MLS history in a single year"

    basically recovered to the point of first year attendance. 5 crowds in 96 were larger than the SSS capacity now (was at Ohio State large football stadium)

    http://www.kenn.com/soccer/mls/losangeles.html
    probably a small bump in attendance for la, a huge bump in revenue (I'd guess)

    HOME GAMES ROAD GAMES
    DATES TOTAL AVERAGE DATES TOTAL AVERAGE
    Columbus Crew 15 253,079 16,872 15 188,664 12,578
    Los Angeles Galaxy 15 357,137 23,809 15 217,411 14,494

    Los Angeles 2002 14 266,664 19,047 9.5% 14,738

    don't have 2003 info, but good jump, especially from median I'd guess (2004 median not on mlsnet, it's posted on bigsoccer somewhere though)
     
  7. Mountainia

    Mountainia Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Section 207, Row 7
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DC has been under home rule for decades now. The city is financing the stadium by taxing DC businesses, and backing the bonds with DC taxpayer's money, not Fed money.

    The Fed still has the power to nose in and do whatever they want, but they tend to save that for grandstanding issues that they can't get passed for their own districts, but can easily pass for DC since DC has no representation.
     
  8. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Wow, I'm lovin the design. Brick facade, no initial seating behind the goals (allows for expandability without the less desirable seats initially), a roof ... it just ooozes class. I hope the finished product is something like that, because if so, I think we have a new standard in stadiums.

    BTW, what do you people thing about another Anschutz team gets a great stadium while the Hunt team (its arch-rival) gets what initially appears to be something less? I for one am darn glad that we're owned by Anschutz. Hopefully we get all the permissions we need very soon to build our stadium, because I don't want the NIMBYs to delay our stadium until Anschutz eventually sells United.

    -Digital
     
  9. bofahey

    bofahey Member

    Sep 1, 2001
    Washington, DC
    If you look closely, I think there is seating behind one goal and the other has the stage set-up. It's essentially the same as the Dallas design in that sense, but with all the things you mentioned that Dallas skipped (the roof, brick facade, etc.)

    This is clearly the best SSS design in the USA to date.
     
  10. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Time for me to play HSG apologist.

    First, I'm not sure where you get the impression that Dallas isn't going to have a nice facade on ULHOWA. Look at some of the artist's renderings at the FC Dallas website. We're not exactly talking Crew Stadium Mark II here.

    As far as the roof (or lack thereof) is concerned, Dallas and Chicago are spending basically the same amount of money on their respective stadium complexes. However, the Frisco complex will be surrounded by 17 rec soccer fields. Not only was this a requirement that helped HSG get civic funding in the first place, they will help forge a deeper grassroots bond between the team and the local soccer community. Plus, usage fees generate revenue streams. But building those fields costs money. The Bridgeview stadium will only have a couple of practice fields for the Fire next to it (and really that's all that they have room for), so they've got a token roof.

    In the end, Dallas spent their money on rec fields, Chicago spent theirs on a roof. Aside from that, the two stadiums are very similar.
     
  11. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Orioles Park at Camden Yards" = "United Stadium at Poplar Point"
     
  12. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    That's Oriole Park at Camden Yards, but most everyone on the street has dropped the OP part of the name.
     
  13. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, even if truncated to that, I think "Poplar Point" sounds pretty good. In fact, I like it better than anything I've heard yet. Certainly I like it more than "Lockheed-Martin Field" or "Discovery Channel Stadium" or "The Fannie Mae Center."
     
  14. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about 'United Grounds at Poplar Point'?
     
  15. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    I still think it should just be known as Anacostia. I sounds traditional like Anfield or something.
     
  16. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dear Baby Jesus,

    Please, please, please do whatever it takes to have some suit over at Fannie Mae have the brilliant idea to buy the naming rights to DC United's mythical future stadium. We would love to see DC United play their home games at "The Fannie."

    Sincerely,
    Almost everyone
     
  17. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Call it whatever you want it will alwys be the "Home of Champions!!"
     
  18. Jester64

    Jester64 Member

    Sep 12, 2003
    Takoma Park
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scary too. ;)
     
  19. b1968k

    b1968k New Member

    Aug 4, 2002
    Logan Circle, DC
    The Stickfoot Creek runs through the site. But that may be a better name for the restaurant/pub.
     
  20. joshdcu

    joshdcu New Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    Washington, DC
    I've already told you guys:

    The name of the new stadium will be "Scrubbing Bubbles Flushable Toilet Wipes Field at Poplar Point."

    You heard it here first. ;)
     
  21. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's go win The Cup ... togetherrrrrrr


    I'm telling you, United Bank shouldn't let this opportunity slip by ... :)
     
  22. Darth Norteño

    Darth Norteño With Buddha In My Fists

    The Arsenal
    Wales
    Dec 9, 2003
    laceyforest.arl.va
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Wales
    Abysmally corny jokes make baby Jesus cry. :mad:
     
  23. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Propecia Park" has a nice ring to it.

    Or maybe "Cialis Field"
     
  24. greatscott

    greatscott Member+

    Dec 21, 2002
    Richmond
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anacostia Park
     
  25. Anthony

    Anthony Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have always thought the should name it Marion Barry Memorial Stadium

    This way, it can be popularly known as:

    The Crack House
     

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