St. Louis - A Soccer City

Discussion in 'St. Louis City SC' started by USvsIRELAND, Aug 12, 2013.

  1. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colu...cle_6a3309bc-5ff9-52cd-a379-a518869905d7.html
    54,000 on the same day (only a few hours before) the beloved Cardinals vs. rival Cubs.

    Thats a pretty big deal.
     
  2. Jewelz510

    Jewelz510 Member+

    Feb 19, 2011
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None of that means anything though until potential owners/investors step up with a viable bid.
     
  3. jasontoon

    jasontoon Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it certainly helps make that possibility a little more likely, at least.
     
  4. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm really shocked that nobody suitable has turned up in St. Louis. Of the remaining potential MLS markets in this country, it's the closest there is to a no-brainer, IMO.
     
  5. Utherhimo

    Utherhimo Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yet only 1000 came out to see AC STL.....
     
  6. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Seattle, Portland, Toronto, etc. weren't coming out to see their minor league soccer teams play.

    And that team had one season. Hard to judge it on one season.
     
  7. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    [​IMG]

    In other news: the sky is blue and the pope is a catholic.
     
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  8. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    The story was a nice story but it probably didn't belong in an MLS expansion thread.
     
  9. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Um, this is exactly where it belonged.
     
  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Not really anymore so than in a NASL expansion forum or a USL Forum. Now Soccer in the USA, yes.
     
  11. jasontoon

    jasontoon Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AC St. Louis averaged 2,750 per game.
    The Seattle Sounders averaged 3,386 in their last season in USL (2008).
    The Toronto Lynx averaged 1,551 in theirs (2006).
    Philadelphia's last pro team before MLS left in 1980.

    Fair play to Orlando, San Antonio, and other cities doing it the Portland way.

    But support for D2 soccer in major-league cities has never been strong - and has no bearing on future MLS attendance.
     
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  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So what has Jeff Cooper been up to? Just curious...
     
  13. Gaboo

    Gaboo Member

    Jan 14, 2008
    Singapore
    Club:
    Fortuna Düsseldorf 1895
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm really wondering why nothing at all is happening with the huge potential and history/tradition that is brought up all the time. I understand, that the major reason is that there is simply no ownership group (including stadium plan) coming forward (or even existing) to make an MLS team happen, but how come there is not even anyone capable of bringing an NASL team to the city seeming to be interested!? I am sure the NASL would be more than happy to "snatch" them from MLS with all its history and tradition and if the interest in the sport in St. Louis is really as big as always claimed, the city should be able to support even an NASL team fairly well if done properly. At the same time the costs and requirements are significantly lower compared to MLS. If St. Louis is currently lacking the resources to make it to MLS why not settle for NASL first, giving people in St. Louis something to cheer for, take advantage of the potential and history of the city and having the option of slowly "growing" into MLS shape? Not even anyone with the resources to make NASL happen interested in St. Louis at this point or what are the reasons?
     
  14. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I remember back in the day the USMNT used to play at the St. Louis Soccer Park but that was 24 years ago. Can anyone explain what shape that place is in today?
     
  15. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I was a billionaire, St. Louis would be #1 on my list of where to start an expansion team. I love that town. So much potential and opportunity for MLS.

    Sadly, no other billionaires feel the same, so no team yet. No daddy = no club.
     
  16. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    AC St. Louis played there. Not too bad, but too small and flood prone.
     
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  17. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, that's a valid point for St. Louis, but when I bring it up about Atlanta, you find a reason to dismiss it? Odd...

    For the record, I think that St. Louis would make a good MLS market, but so do I for Atlanta.
     
  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Cool. Do you know if anyone ever talked about rebuilding or reconstructing it to bring it up to today's standards ?
     
  19. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Not that I've heard. It's pretty far from downtown St. Louis.
     
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  20. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    It's the makeup of the crowd man!

    The GA Dome crowds are almost all Mexican/Mexican-American - groups that are proven to not watch MLS or attend MLS matches.

    I've been in STL for roughly a year and I'm pretty sure than an STL team would draw better than an ATL team.

    STL is full of soccer fans. Thats just a fact.
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    It's not just that STL is full of soccer fans and they draw big numbers at Soccer matches.

    The fans at those matches and at the bars and stuff are ACTUAL St. Louisians.

    Not English, Irish, Mexican, etc. transplants.

    That is the big difference between STL and ATL.
     
  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'm surprised that no MLS ownership group ever even had an interest in going into St. Louis other than maybe Jeff Cooper. Not sure what happened with that but for as long as I remember , the town was always considered as the home and/or birth of American born soccer players and had a rich history with the sport. I'm sure if they are ever awarded a team, they would draw just as well as the 18k that Philadelphia has gotten since their inception.
     
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  22. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    @Sport Billy

    Can I ask why this was moved into STL forum and not kept in regular expansion forum when there are threads mentioning Louisville, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Birmingham, Richmond, and Oklahoma City on the front page of the Expansion forum?

    Why is STL not allowed to be discussed there?

    There is more chance of STL becoming a MLS team than almost all those cities/areas combined.
     
  23. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Because none of those others have a city specific forum.
    If there is a Jacksonville I missed, I apologize. It should be in Florida.
     
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  24. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. Scorpion26

    Scorpion26 Member

    May 1, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    There might be interest from someone but they haven't step up to the plate and push to bring a team.
     

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