SSS, Baseball, and Peter Angelos

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Lowecifer, Nov 3, 2002.

  1. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    For what it's worth:

    Angelos says baseball in DC won't work.
     
  2. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Thank God for Peter Angelos. Between keeping the O's down and baseball out of DC, he's becoming my favorite owner in the Big 4 pro sports. I hope he has a long prosperous reign over the Os.

    Anyone who thinks having a baseball team come to RFK will help in our efforts to build an SSS is sadly deluded. Once a baseball teams shows up, all of United phone calls to the DCSC will never be returned. United (along with the Freedom) will be forced into a third class existence at FedEx Field.

    Sachin
     
  3. DC Forever

    DC Forever New Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    Rockville, MD
    Sad, but true Sachin. As much as I hate this (I would love to have a baseball team), it does make an SSS more likely.

    How's this for a dream scenario -- and before people jump all over me, I know that there are a million and one reasons why this would never ever happen in anyone's lifetime -- a DC United baseball club, with similar unis, adjoining stadia, joint marketing, promotional and back-office efforts.

    You could have Saturday double-headers with baseball game in the afternoon, dinner and a few drinks at the clubhouse in between the two parks, then a soccer game at night.

    And then for fun, we could beat up Peter Angelos, the anti-St. Phil.
     
  4. Sober Tom

    Sober Tom Member

    Sep 10, 2001
    Glassboro, South Jer
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're gonna have to build a new baseball stadium for a SSS because RFK is a crap hole. Sorry to say but even if D.C. got a baseball team their attendance would be crap because they'd be playin in a stadium that is way more suitable for soccer than baseball. Seats are missin everywhere and there's not really any nice thing about RFK...except it's great for soccer.
     
  5. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you talk Uncle Phil into outbidding the three other groups for a baseball team, he can probably name it (nearly) anything he likes.

    Hmm.. a baseball team in all black with three white stripes across the jersey. That'd make some waves.

    But seriously, if anyone was going to do that (similar to Real Madrid having both soccer and basketball clubs using the same name), you'd think it would have been someone like Hunt, who could have tagged the Wizards as the Chiefs, or Kraft, who could have named his soccer club Patriots FC or some such.
     
  6. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Can you imagine standing in the outfield in the middle of July wearing an all black uni?
     
  7. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Atouk, in Germany at least, most soccer teams are part of a larger club that has other types of teams and other interests. That's why they have all those strange letters like SV (Sport Club), VfL (Club for "Track and Field"), etc... So it is not strange that Real Madrid has different sports within the same club.

    Doesn't the Tampa baseball team wear black and blue uniforms?
     
  8. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks, Rev, although I didn't think it was strange, it's just that the Spanish basketball league is somewhat decent, so I used it as a reference to basketball team that someone might have known about.

    It's not just Europe, either, right? Vasco da Gama's full name (Clube de Regatas Vasco da Gama) is to do with its original creation as a rowing club. I noticed they've got "Basquete Masc" (appears to be men's basketball) as well as "Futebol" on their website. Looks like they have women's hoops too.

    Actually, on a similar note, the NFL-Europe team in Barcelona changed their name from "Barcelona Dragons" to "F.C. Barcelona Dragons" after they came to some kind of joint-marketing agreement (or something -- I don't recall the details) with F.C. Barcelona, although the American-football team didn't change their colors, logos, etc., to match FC Barcelona for some reason.
     
  9. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Well, except that RFK is a baseball stadium. All the sightlines are set up for baseball, that's why the sections 'bow' around midfield.

    Soccer/football is the secondary configuration for the stadium.
     
  10. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    Actually, RFK was perhaps the first "multi-purpose" stadium. It was designed for both football and baseball. As MLB eventually discovered, however, multi-purpose stadia make lousy ballparks. So yeah, you can play baseball there, and yeah, it was designed so that you can play baseball there, but to call it a "baseball stadium" is a bit of a stretch - like calling the Vet a baseball stadium.

    Regardless, it's been so long since baseball was played there that some serious reconfiguration would need to be done before before you could throw out a pitch. Part of that reconfiguration would entail the removal of the bouncy seat sections that house the Screaming Eagles and La Barra Brava, to make room for left field. That would be a sad, sad day.
     
  11. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    After they pry the railing in front of 135 from my cold dead fingers.
     
  12. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    Don't tempt CSC! ;)
     
  13. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I plan on taking some of 'em with me. :)
     
  14. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, we sit in the third base seats......RFK was designed as a baseball stadium that could fit football. Ever notice the big wheels and tracks under the seats? That's because the entire section is movable. The seats behind the goal are collapsable (by intention, not strain)....and the entire section that bounces (steel is lighter than concrete) moves over to the third base side.
     
  15. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    You're right, it was designed to accomodate baseball - but by arranging things so the stadium could also fit football (making it multi-purpose), the architects ended up with a second-rate (at best) baseball stadium. What was a second-rate ballpark in '61 is, by today's MLB luxury-box standards, a barely acceptable hell-hole in which to stash a team for a season at most while a new "retro" ballpark is built. It's great for soccer, though - even if that was more by accident than design - although it would be nice if they put bleachers in the south endzone more often.
     
  16. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Metal bleachers behind the goal would be perfect for La Barra Brava. Think of the possibilities....:eek:
     
  17. RomaDcUnitedSaoPaulo

    Sep 22, 2002
    i hate MetroScum
    wow... baseball in rfk... my thought process considers this about as stupid as when i heard they were gonna make another DC soccer team.... If they decide to put baseball there, my wonderful pitch, which every night i pray that the next season we wont have to play on it, will be ruined by the lines and seat changing and.... oh man it hurts my brain.
     
  18. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BIG stripes :D
     
  19. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
  20. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium

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