SQR: SJ Merc, 5/1-'Jobs vs Housing debate erupts over Evergreen plan'

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  1. Airblair

    Airblair Member

    Dec 8, 1999
    Redwood City
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_5790818

    This article has nothing to do with the Quakes, and soccer isn't even mentioned.

    But it is about a City Council decision on whether to rezone some 542 acres in the Evergreen district from industrial to residential, so that developers can build 4,500 homes on the land.

    In other words, it's the exact same kind of debate we can expect to see over the iStar land that Lew Wolff wants to rezone to residential, so that he can pay for a stadium.

    Now, granted, the iStar parcel is only about one-third the size of this one. And just because the mayor is against this conversion, doesn't necessarily mean he'll be against the iStar conversion; he may object to the sheer size of the land being converted, or its location, or the fact that the profits to be made will line the developers' pockets and won't be plowed into a new stadium.

    Still, this bears keeping an eye on.
     
  2. JMichaels

    JMichaels New Member

    Feb 17, 2003
    Different writer. One without a chip on his shoulder. This is how you write an objective news story. Props to the author.
     
  3. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I have to admit I'm stunned. If it had been a typical Merc trash writer I would have expected them to mention Wolff's plan regardless of being unrelated.
     
  4. sj_oldtimer

    sj_oldtimer Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Clovis CA
    Did the Murk endorse Reed or Chavez for mayor? I honestly do not recall. I don't subscribe so I never really paid any attention to their endorsement.
     
  5. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    I hope Reed takes a huge stand here, denying any more development in Evergreen. That way, the iStar property doesn't look like just another back-alley deal, but one that'll actually do something for the city. The public will see two things:

    Evergreen development = no stadium or team

    Edenvale development = stadium and team

    Much of the Evergreen proposal is hardly infill, too. They're looking to extend to the limit allowed.
     
  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    They endorsed Reed, and at the primaries I think they endorsed (chicken) Pandori.

    But I think it's less about trying to further a political agenda than it is about trying to sell newspapers. Create a story, stir up some controversy. And that's what they should be doing, trying to sell newspapers. But at some point that goal meets head to head with ethical journalism and you have to make some trade-offs. Otherwise you become the National Enquirer. That's been my complaint with the MN. I think they will sometimes trade objectivity and reasoned reporting for the chance to brew a controversy and sell more copy.
     
  7. asdf2

    asdf2 Member+

    Oct 11, 2004
    San Francisco
    Looks like Carl Berg is the developer on this. Lew Wolff may be wealthy and well connected in SJ, but FWIW Carl Berg is 10x as wealthy and 10x as connected in SJ.
     
  8. asdf2

    asdf2 Member+

    Oct 11, 2004
    San Francisco
    By the way I'm not drawing any conclusions from this. Just stating the facts.
     
  9. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good find Airblair!

    I think these two conversion proposals differ in significantly different ways.

    First, the scale is quite different.

    Second, the iStar property is right next to mass transit lines, whereas the Evergreen property is not. (At least I don't think it is.)

    Third, the Evergreen developers plan to give some cash to the city, but it's for roads, parks, and schools, which the city will have to maintain for a long time to come.

    Whereas Wolff plans to build a stadium, which he will maintain. This says nothing however about any money for schools, parks, roads, police, or fire services. Of course, Wolff's proposal isn't that far along yet, so these issues may well be included.

    This may be a crucial point in these decisions:
    I think Wolff's soccer stadium can go a long ways towards looking out for lots of people and the city in general. :D

    QUAKES FOREVER!!
    GO WOLFF!!
    GO SSV!!
    fuaeg!
    fumls!
    fuaeg!
    fumls!

    - Mark
     
  10. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    The real money behind Wolff's group is John Fisher, who is listed by Forbes with a net worth of $1.5 billion. Berg is listed at $1.3 billion.
     
  11. Oh_Teddy_Teddy

    Apr 7, 2003
    Mountain View, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Carl Berg...didn't he used to own the NASL Quakes....Falvo...SJ Oldtimer?
     
  12. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    John Fisher is like the rich uncle we all wish we had :)
     
  13. sj_oldtimer

    sj_oldtimer Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Clovis CA
    I was just going to answer the other posting about that. Carl Berg owned the Quakes for the final couple years of the NASL. With Dragon Popovic as coach, they did put a tremendous side on the field in 1983, undefeated at home until a 1-0 OT last second loss to Toronto in the playoff semi-finals. Steve Zungul had moved to the outdoor game in the US and pretty well proved that he was one of the great goal scorers in NASL history. That guy could find the back of the net with defenders draped all over him.
     

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