Spurs V. Boro [R]

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by jumhed, Nov 27, 2004.

  1. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Man, this game is gonna be tough as old boots! I still think we can take them though.

    2-0 to us, with Hasselbaink getting sent-off after the ref mistakes him for the lardy Aussie Viduka.
     
  2. ERIMUS

    ERIMUS Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Teesside
    Club:
    Middlesbrough FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    No chance ;)
     
  3. ERIMUS

    ERIMUS Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Teesside
    Club:
    Middlesbrough FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Boro Team: Schwarzer, McMahon, Queudrue, Riggott, Southgate, Parlour, Downing, Zenden, Boateng, Hasselbaink, Viduka
     
  4. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    HT 0-0

    Quedrue sent off for vile 2 footed challenge on Pamarot. McClaren does a Fergie impreesion at HT by rushing onto the pitch (the centre circle, no less) to confront the ref. Twat.
     
  5. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    1. Robinson, Paul
    17. Pamarot, Noe
    26. King, Ledley
    2. Naybet, Noureddine
    24. Atouba, Thimothee
    27. Ricketts, Rohan
    8. Mendes, Pedro
    23. Carrick, Michael
    16. Ziegler, Reto
    10. Keane, Robbie
    18. Defoe, Jermain


    Ricketts on the right instead of Mendes. Makes more sense than last week, eh?
     
  6. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Some of the first-half's action -


    36mins: CLOSE. Best move yet, good interplay between Ziegler and Keane, Ziegler played in Defoe, just left of centre, fired just over with left foot from 12 yards.

    38mins: Viduka inches away from Parlour's right-wing cross.

    40mins: RED CARD. Queudrue sent off after a two-footed tackle on Pamarot.

    41mins: YELLOW. Boateng booked for protesting.

    43mins: CLOSE. Keane chased down long ball, forced Schwarzer to head clear out of box, header straight to Defoe who shot towards goal only for Keane to block! Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
     
  7. ERIMUS

    ERIMUS Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Teesside
    Club:
    Middlesbrough FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It wasnt a sending off, just checked it out. Harsh red card
     
  8. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    A two-footed challenge, missing the ball and landing on the defenders ankle? Yeah, well harsh.
     
  9. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    48mins: GOAL. Pamarot lovely ball down right channel to Mendes, first time cross to near post swept home by Defoe.
    Spurs 1, Middlesbrough 0

    48mins: YELLOW. Defoe booked for taking shirt off in celebrations.

    54mins: DISALLOWED. Late flag as Keane raced on to Mendes pass, lobbed Schwarzer but ruled offside - replays showed he was on.

    57mins: Atouba header from Carrick's deep cross but not enough power to trouble Schwarzer.
     
  10. E. & P.

    E. & P. New Member

    Mar 14, 2003
  11. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    solid result.
    really needed that one.
    mr. jol will sleep a little easier tonight.
     
  12. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Haha! 2-0! I'm a predictive genius!

    Kanoute scored with his bum! Cool!

    I think everyone played well today, except Naybet was a bit pants, but all in all, good stuff.
     
  13. THFC1

    THFC1 New Member

    Oct 2, 2004
    South East London
    Naybet's passing was poor today, but Ledley & Naybet looked comfortable against Hasselbaink & Viduka. Carrick & Mendes played really well & Ziegler impresses more each time he plays.

    Good prediction Jumhed, i went for 3-2 today with Defoe to score the 1st goal today.
     
  14. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Thank God we are back on track. If we can beat Liverpool then things won't look quite as bad as they did last week.
     
  15. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    It'll be a toughie! The 'Pool just beat the Scum!
     
  16. metropolis2k

    metropolis2k New Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    England
    I was at the game and right in front of both goals and the sending off. I am a referee and it was definitely a sending off. Nobody jumps in like that (vertically) to get the ball - if he had hit the ball he'd have tripped over it. Pamarot had already won the ball and Queudrue just had the red mist descend momentarily because he lost the ball. I don't know how a pro can do a tackle like that on another pro - I thought he'd broken his ankle.

    Anyway, Spurs looked good, the midfield was good (Mendes and Ziegler were excellent). When they knocked the ball about with quick one touch passing Boro couldn't get near them. Ignore what McLaren had to say after the final whistle, Boro didn't dominate at all - in fact I was very surprised how badly they played for a team in 5th place. Keane and Defoe didn't get on well again but Atouba was alright at left back.

    Nice to see Ricketts back in the team - it's just a shame he seemed to be lacking confidence. Hopefully he'll have a good run out against Liverpool or Blackburn.
     
  17. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well we took them apart with 11 v 10, could and probably should have had more goals in the end and Boro didn't threaten other than one freekick from Downing which Robbo dealt with.

    Still not happy with the right wing at all, Ricketts may be able to do a job if he's playing his best, but the lack of form and fitness from Davies is such a big problem. I hope Yeates gets chance, I think he could prove to be the best fit for that side, at least until we get to January.

    Very good ball from Pamarot to Mendes for the first goal. Ridiculous of Defoe to get booked and therefore suspended for taking his shirt off though. Although I've heard it may have been planned to get his suspension out of the way before the christmas period where we will need as many available as possible. The schedule is ridiculous then and still no winter break.

    Keano still cannot gel with Defoe, I can only hope Jol gets it to work, would be such a big plus. Kanoute worked his socks off when he came on though, good closing down for the second goal.
     
  18. Dave_M

    Dave_M New Member

    May 25, 2004
    Enfield
    Well yes, and no....

    The yes:
    As I understand it, its against the rules. DONT ask me why - lord only knows what goes on inside the heads of the FA. By that reasoning he broke the rules and got a card.

    The no:
    HOWEVER, its such a stupid petty rule. Does it really matter. Lord no. And what bugs me is referee's are totally inconsistent with their aplication of said rule. Van Nistleroy takes his shirt of on a regular basis and I dont recall ever seeing him carded for it.
     
  19. jumhed

    jumhed Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    London
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    The way McClaren went on about Quedrue's sending off changing the game, you'd have thought Franck is Maradona in his prime or something! Some two-bit defender who tackles like a striker gets sent off and suddenly its all gone Pete Tong for 'Boro!

    Schwarzer's distribution was awful! Kanoute scores with his arse thanks to Schwarzer's crappy kick, and then later on he passed to Defoe, who set Carrick up for a shot. Should've scored, the bugger!

    'Boro were second best today. They're overdue a dip in form, they've been punching above their weight for a while now!

    Ziegler is shaping up to be a very good buy indeed! Mendes is very cool, Ricketts was quiet. Being sent home early from his loan spell at Coventry must've felt like a proper diss! Carrick seems to drift in and out of games. He really needs a kick up the arse!
     
  20. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Carrick needs to adjust out of the West Ham playing style, was the same for Lampard at Chelski. No good jogging around and waiting for the ball. He has the quality though, and we've got decent hardworking partners for him.

    The midfield is still too sluggish and inexperienced though. We need more pace and cutting edge in there to beat players and move the ball quicker. Ziegler cannot really beat a man and Ricketts is too inconsistent even when confident.
     
  21. THFC1

    THFC1 New Member

    Oct 2, 2004
    South East London
    Ziegler is only 18 but has shown enough ability to earn him a start in the first team. He works really hard tracks back & gets tackles in. He does run a defenders. He seems confident but with his confidence sky high i think he has the ability to beat players.
     
  22. Rambler

    Rambler New Member

    May 6, 2003
    First game I was at this season and I have to say was well impressed with Mendes and Ziegler. Less so with Atouba buthe was playing out of psoition covering for Edman. Ricketts had a quiet game and many more peformances like that will see him out of Spurs for good. But back to the positives, Ziegler puts in so much work rate. I ahvent see a player like this in Donkeys down at the Lane. Mendes has class. If I could label one criticism of him is that he has more time then he believes at times. In the second half, when we were for the most part running ten man Boro ragged, the ball broke to Mendes often where he could of run with it at the exposed Boro defense, instead he tended to play a quick ball over the top for Jermaine or Robbo to chase. But he did show some quality touches throughout the game.

    Kanoute came on, scored a flukey goal and did little all else. It appears to me since he wenmt off to play in the African Nations cup he has never quite been the same player. Jol should persevere with the Defoe/Keane combo
     
  23. metropolis2k

    metropolis2k New Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    England
    I disagree. Before the goal I'm not sure Kanoute realised he was on the pitch. He certainly didn't work his socks off. He put in one good tackle but didn't really chase much apart from that.

    I disagree again, he often gets past his man - and when they double up on him he gets past or gets a free kick.

    Ziegler was my man of the match. He tucked inside a bit in the second half and was really getting stuck in. Great young talent.
     
  24. chriswalk27

    chriswalk27 New Member

    Dec 8, 2003
    Dalton Georgia
    Great win and have to say looked like a red card offense to me. If the two footed challenge Defoe made earlier in the year was a yellow card and he got nothing but the ball and was first one to the ball Quedrue's tackle should have been a red card, doesn't really matter that he didn't break Pamarot's ankle.

    Ziegler was man of the match with great passing on numerous occasions and tackling better than anyone else on the team except maybe King and King didn't have to make any tackles with Boro's inept offense.

    I actually thought Ricketts was ok, sure he was quiet but seemed like Spurs made a effort to get the ball to Atouba and Ziegler down the left so it didn't give Ricketts many chances to make an impression. He didn't do anything stupid like try and go past a man when all he needed to do in the situation is pass to Mendes and let his superior passing skills pick out Defoe and Robbie.

    Wish Atouba would learn some of that and not try and do more than is needed, just get to the byline and send in a decent cross, instead he trys to make early cross after early cross to no effect. Thought he was very solid at left back in the first half, wish Jol would have kept him there and not switched him and Ziegler.

    I actually thought Boro did better in the first 30 minutes than Spurs but didn't dominate with no real scoring chances-Parlour from 30 yards out shouldn't trouble Robbo on his bad days.

    Anyway, would like to see a decent performance in midweek. Even if we don't win just want to see us bust our asses and show Pool we aren't in the same class as Soton or Norwich.
     
  25. ilbaasha

    ilbaasha New Member

    Oct 27, 2004
    Kuwait City
    to me, man of the match was Noe Pamarot, the best buy from Santini's era!!! the match was boring, especially in its first half apart from Defoe's shot, second half, can't remember much apart from the goals, nothing to be mentioned!

    Keanoo, was not there... was he? I mean he did nothing except saving boro from being behind in the first half... he was Boro's extra man, until Boro were a man down!!! and when he was subbed, Boro looked like a team that had a man sent off!!!
     

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