Does anyone know how to ask a player for their player pass in Spanish? Also -- do you any members on here ref in Spanish speaking leagues that could offer some other words to learn for games? Thanks!
I usually say credenciales? Idk if that's right or something along the lines of cartas credenciales. And I make a hand gesture like I'm holding an ID/credit card.
http://ajwalton.com/swear-in-spanish Keep in mind you need to read the recipients. Some of this is so prevelant, it isn't insulting anymore. Sometimes hand gestures or bars from a song are more insulting. I would find a guy who does this regularly and sit with him over a few beers to understand.
Arbitro= referee Tarjeta (tar heta)= cards Amarillo (Am-Uh-Rill-Oh)= yellow Rojo= red Bandera= Flag Faulta= foul Marcar la faulta= call the foul Penal= penalty Partido= game Futbol= soccer Balón/pelota= soccer ball Tiro de esquina= corner kick Potrero= goal keeper I would put some of the curse words to watch but these are some general words that could be useful with other Spanish speaking referees. Idk how the mods would feel bout that. I put stuff you may say to Spanish-speaking referees. cause if you are reffing a Spanish league you will probably be in the minority of non-Spanish speakers there. As far as refereeing the leagues they vary vastly. I would say it depends how good the leagues are and what the structure is like. I have always found unaffiliated leagues to be a hassle. Stuff like red carded players playing in the next game. Players playing for multiple teams. That type of malarkey. As well as using illegal players with illegal cards, at least I did that during my playing days. There is normally the issue with referee assault as well. However, you can learn a lot about player management through unaffiliated leagues. Affiliated Hispanics leagues are usually just as good too. Like I said it just depends on the organization structure. I will say for the few Hispanic leagues I have done. Unless you know people that play there or referees there may be a player "adjustment period." I have found that after a few weekend or games the teams will become use to you and you will start to build a rapport. They will become familiar with you and will leave you alone. If they view you as an outsider they will most definitely try to challenge your authority or test you. Also I would take the lowest division or as much ARs to get use to the game. You may also find that the foul threshold and certain challenges are way lower then youth or normal non-Hispanic leagues. Hispanic leagues tend to not like exposed cleats or "high boots". Yet they still do it. Also, they don't normally show up on time to games (ymmv). I have also had to run almost on the field for the Hispanic games I have done because all the families are there to watch. So expect a very crowded touch line. Hope this helps. Let us know how the game goes.
It's almost like you've reffed a few a these games before because this is EXACTLY how it appears to be. I've only done two games for them so far and you pretty much nailed it on the atmosphere.
I found this link which seems pretty accurate from the Spanish I know. Even being married to a Panamanian, we don't really use soccer terminology around the house, so I have to go with what I learn on the field. http://www.worldsoccersource.com/futbol-vocabulary/ I looked at a couple of sights for the Spanish term for the soccer version of "play on" or "advantage", but didn't see one. Any suggestions? That's definitely one I'd like to have in my arsenal.
I wouldn't worry too much about language. Use these matches to work on your non verbal communication skills. About the only word I use is pelota while making the sign for a ball. On the field I use clear, simple English. "Good" "no" "play" "ok?" The truth is most of these guys know enough to convey the simple messages, especially if you can use your body language and facial and hand jestures to convey both personally and publicly what you want.
You might want to know some of the more common OFFINIBUS in Spanish. I have seen several fights break out at hispanic league matches that I ended up finding out were because of that. I was lucky to be able to have my wife teach me those.
Yes, eventually you start picking up some of the curse words, but to be honest, I usually just feign ignorance - just as the players do when they pretend they don't understand English! And if someone does say something about you or another player, one of the more fluent players will usually let you know. Sometimes I shrug and wink and say "No hablo Espanol" and sometimes if I know who said it or who the hot heads are, I give them a public cut it out gesture. The key to success in a Spanish league game is not knowing specific words, but to be attune to and have a feel for the game. Long before a player questions another's manhood or says something about someone's mother, there has usually been a foul or a series of fouls, or just a series of annoyances that cause a player to react. Be sharp, read the game, understand that if you have allowed red #10 to play through numerous challenges, that you need to both convey to him that you know he is getting hit, but that you are allowing him to play through and create opportunities. You also need to send a clear signal to the other team (and to the player's teammates) that you are aware of what is going on and that they need to cut it out (the gestures for PI are good). For the individual player, you can convey this non verbally with just some simple hand gestures after the play has ended. Show some concern on your face, point to your ankle, point to the open field, flash him a thumbs up / ok sign and he will likely give you a thumbs up. He knows you saw it. Just know that at some point you do need to call it.
Advantage: "¡Ventaja!" Play on: "¡Siga!" (continue in the imperative) Married to a Spaniard for 7 years. My conversational speaking is still pretty good. Curse words tend to be regional, but I can easily pick most of them up in the context of the words around them.
If you hear a player saying something that ends in "madre," pull the red card. It is important that you demonstrate to the players early in the game that you understand the level of physical play that they want/will tolerate. In fact, it's important that you do that in any game, but particularly when there is a cultural divide between the referee and the players. Don't be shy about issuing cautions, either. A game with six or eight cautions is not at all unusual. Red carded players playing again the next week? Say it ain't so! We've had some leagues affiliate because they decided that they just couldn't trust themselves. For the typical such unaffiliated league, the managers meet on Monday night. "Jose got a red card yesterday from that crazy referee. He isn't that kind of player! I move that we let him play next week." A lot of 'if you'll vote for my guy, I'll vote for yours' thing going on. To stop that, they affiliated with our adult association. But I can top that: I happened to be going to or from a game at a multi-field complex. There was a very unaffiliated Hispanic league playing on one of the fields. The referee was a bit overweight guy wearing jeans with a very inexpensive whistle. Two players got in a fight behind play. Punches thrown. The referee goes back to them, shows them both a red card, and jogs back to where play was still going on at the other end of the field. The two guys shrugged and kept playing. But they did stop fighting!
Wow! Now that's funny! I guess the ref did a good job if they stopped fighting. I have to ask though, what do you mean by 'cheap' whistle?
Cheap, as in an inexpensive plastic whistle of the kind that is often sold at grocery store checkout counter displays, along with the National Enquirer and plastic packages with two cookies.
Hispanic League match in the Bronx I think (or maybe Queens). Referee is also a track and field judge and he came to referee with all of his gear for both sports. Fight breaks out, somehow the GK runs in the melee with a blade. Referee runs to his gym bag and pulls out his starters pistol. bang Bang BANG and all 22 players leave the pitch...no more fighting on that day! Bravo my good buddy Harry...very well done mate!
We had some contact with the "Mexican consulate" locally that had decided that the Mexican citizens in the area were being oppressed. We actually had an official inquiry from them about a Mexican citizen who had been red carded in a game and they demanded to know how he had received due process, etc. A consulate has no authority to do anything like this and we knew it, so we ignored it. A few months later, their representative went to the local park district and got permission to use their fields for a soccer tournament they were organizing. We tried to tell the park people that these guys were not legitimate, etc. but they played the ethnic and immigrant card, so the tournament went ahead. The first day, the goalkeeper for a team did not like something that a player for the opposing team said to him. He went to his bag and pulled out a gun, and then started chasing the guy. Police were called instantly, the guy was arrested, the two team "tournament" was over and the Mexican consulate never raised its head again to be involved in soccer.
What Law5 said. I'll add, however, since you've said you're new (welcome!) there are plenty of very good inexpensive whistles. Fox40 makes some excellent ones for comfortably under $10. It's perfectly possible to spend $50 or more on gee-whiz whistles, but wholly unnecessary IMO.
Thanks! I've been using a fox 40 and a molten whistle this season...I'm thinking about getting the dolfin whistle.
If it's sugar-glazed, it's probably no worse than eating the peanuts and popcorn. Let us know! Oh, did you mean "for officiating" instead of "for eating"? Hmm...
The flavor wasn't bad, but it was hard on the teeth. Maybe a neoprene mouthpiece cover? It was a cheap whistle, in any case.