Spanish League and WNT

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by Patchouli, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    League review for February

    Atlético Madrid had been in crisis and coach Pablo López was fired on 20 Jan, just a few months after arriving.

    The successor as manager, Dani González, got Atlético the win that they desperately needed over Levante (3rd), and in some style at 4-1 away. The next week in a Madrid derby, Atlético won it 1-0 at Madrid CFF.

    Behind Levante, it's 8 points to their nearest challengers - Deportivo La Coruña (4th) and Athletic Bilbao (5th), who both dropped points in recent weeks:

    RAYO VALLECANO 2 - 1 DEPORTIVO
    Oriana Altuve 38', 65' - Michelle Romero 36'
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCvhQnUXXz0
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    Real Betis 2 - 2 Athletic Bilbao
    Priscila 20', Michaela Abam 72' - Damaris 68', Yulema Corres 86''
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evvk4mz0MB0
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    Rayo are now up in 7th, after being in last year's relegation battle.
    That single point for Real Betis is significant - it lifts them out of the relegation zone on goal difference. Remember, at season's end, a points tie will be decided using the head-to-head rule first.
    The first relegation place is between Valencia, Betis and Huelva (17pts), while the other surely belongs to Espanyol (4pts).

    Copa de la Reina quarter-finals took place yesterday, 26 Feb, we have our four semifinalists:

    Madrid CFF 0 - Sevilla FC 3 - (Maite 7', Karpova 73', Echeverri 88')

    Logroño 1–0 Real Betis - (Jade Boho 67')
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    Barcelona 1 - Deportivo 0, AET - (Hamraoui 120')
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    Athletic Bilbao v CD Tacón full match stream / highlights
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  2. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    I watched large parts of that game. Incredible inefficiency from Barcelona. Oshoala should have had two hat-tricks. I believe Deportivo would have won the penalty shoot-out, had they managed to last one more minute.
     
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  3. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
  4. castate

    castate New Member

    Dec 11, 2015
    What are the roster rules for Spanish Iberdola as far as rostering foreigners?
     
  5. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    No major restrictions, it seems.

    In 2002 it was very different - Milene Domingues from Brazil was not even allowed to sign, only to train with Rayo.
    There's an article listing overseas players at the start of 2019/20 which says that Atlético Madrid and Sporting Huelva now have the most from abroad.



    In Atlético's last women's match, they had 5 non-EU players in the XI and one on the bench. (Men's clubs are limited to 3 non-EU players per match.)


    Atlético played a historic match this month in Istanbul, Turkey - as posted in Club friendlies:

    Beşiktaş - Atlético de Madrid, 7 March 2020
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEkJmrbpy5o
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    Rewind to 1 year ago - Madrid's own record attendance: 60,000 at the Metropolitano

    LIGA IBERDROLA | Atlético de Madrid 0 - FC Barcelona 2
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJXzsLu1rb4
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  6. castate

    castate New Member

    Dec 11, 2015
    Thanks for the info. I was wondering because I had heard about the men's restriction.
     
  7. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    [​IMG] Re-posted by Athletic Bilbao:

    "We look back on a historic day for Athletic Club: August 21, 2003, when our first women’s team, after winning the league [in the team's first season in the Primera], made its debut in European competition." - (Athletic-Club)

    Video Library: Athletic Club Women's debut in Europe (2003) - https://www.athletic-club.eus/en/ne...ary-athletic-club-womens-debut-in-europe-2003 (Archive)

    And the match highlights, complete with excellent dancing – Athletic v the Austrian champs SV Neulengbach in the UEFA Women's Cup 2003/04.

     
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  8. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Coronavirus outbreak: As usual, the federation RFEF is using a crisis to try to push its own agenda.

    With 9 games remaining in 2019/20, the proposal from the top was, "well I guess let's cancel the season and increase the league to 18 teams maybe?"

    "The clubs meet today to study the RFEF proposal", 17 April -(El Español)
    "FEF considers finishing Primera Femenina, extending to 18 teams" -(La Rioja)

    The clubs' response may be naive, but shows better understanding of football:

    "Each competition has very specific characteristics, and the impact of any decision can be very different depending on the circumstances. For this reason, from the ACFF we advocate an individual analysis that allows adopting the measures adjusted to each case, and which may not be the same for all non-professional competitions." - (ACFF press release, Plaza Deportiva / Archive)

    In the Primera, only two placements were fairly sure, Barcelona in 1st and Espanyol 16th. Even those two still had a lot to play for.

    Also, from La Liga on 23 April:
    "It would be hasty to cancel the Primera Iberdrola, the Collective Agreement is at risk" - Pedro Malabia, LaLiga Women's Soccer Director: "In the First Iberdrola, you have to wait to make this decision until there is time because a lot is at stake." - (AS.com / Archive)

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    Silvia Meseguer of Atlético Madrid - (Alejandro Reguero, cc-by-sa)

    The best side of the Spanish league has been seen during this pandemic – Ana Romero of Real Betis has been working as a doctor recently, and Silvia Meseguer and Nahikari García are both medically trained or studying.
    https://futbolfemenino.rfef.es/es/p...rimera-iberdrola-y-medicas-dispuestas-ayudar/
    [​IMG] Ana Romero - (cc)
     
  9. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    When we are talking Real Madrid, are the men's side supporting them? Because this could be big. Could change the face of the Spanish women's league with Barcelona and Bilbao and Athletic Madrid usually on top. The new Lyon?
     
  10. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    yes & no, for years they ran a 2nd division who they didnt attach their name, rather it's called CD Tacon. They finally made it to D1 this season. Hired a couple of top Swedes & Brazilians but still currently only in 10th place in the league. It will propably take them several new quality players to make them contenders. As for now,
    Here's their roster, but I doubt if they got any Spanish NT players(Barca got a dozen of them)
    Spain - CD Tacón - Results, fixtures, squad, statistics, photos, videos and news - Women Soccerway
     
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  11. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Its kind of weird to lose some players who helped the team get to top division only to be released and get top new players and not able to compete in top division. Its like me celebrating helping the team get to the premier league but get let go and the club use the new funding from promotion for the top players especially NT players.
     
  12. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    #438 sbahnhof, Apr 25, 2020
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2020
    It was 10 months ago. Real didn't care about women's football until then. (Tacon had been its own club.)
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48766391
     
  13. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa

    The 2019/20 season is ending, for better or worse...

    After 21 matches
    1st: Barcelona (Champions) 59pts
    2nd: Atlético Madrid (UWCL) 50pts
    ahead of Levante 45pts, Deportivo 37

    No relegation, so all are safe:
    Betis 20pts, Madrid CFF 19, Huelva 18

    Saved in 15th place: Valencia 17pts
    Luckiest team, 16th: Espanyol 5pts​



    'We made it!' - Oshoala celebrates maiden Spanish Primera Iberdrola title with Barcelona
    https://www.goal.com/en/news/we-mad...den-spanish-primera/lfvanojframl1jpckiv6vax0t (Archive)

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    Oshoala: has won 3 titles in 2018-20 in China, the AWCON and Spain
    (Steffen Prößdorf, cc-by-sa)

     
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  14. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    The controversy, and maybe also the most interesting part, is the system they're using and what'll happen next.

    Without relegation, the promotions of Eibar (2nd division north) and Santa Teresa (south) will increase the Primera Division from 16 to 18 teams, only for 2020/21, with four relegations at the end of that season. An 18-team Primera would replicate the division's format of 2011/12, before it changed to 16.

    The clubs' federation wanted to avoid any splitting of the 1st division into groups as it was before 2011 (Superliga), which they said would be a regressive move.

    Barça (1st) and Atlético (2nd) had a points lead and both won the head-to-head against the club below them.

    Last-placed Espanyol surviving on 5 points and 0 wins is ... "like, seriously?" ... The only defence is that it keeps the 1st division at an even number of teams. Only one team has had a worse record in the Primera's nine seasons - Lagunak (1 point) in 2012/13.

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    Another era - the Catalan derby in 2012, Espanyol 2 Barcelona 0
    (Xavier Rondón Medina, cc-by-sa)

     
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  15. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Reactions - Atlético Madrid (2nd) disagreed with the early conclusion and the decision to name a 2020 champion, which they kinda have to say, and would also say if they had won. :D

    [​IMG] Colombia's Carolina Arbeláez (Deportivo) says the decision is a bit sexist because the top men's football league hasn't ended - the RFEF ruling applies only to 'non-pro' leagues. "I respect it, but it doesn't seem correct".

    Real Betis' Priscila Borja said their decision showed their "lack of interest" in women's football.

    The men's La Liga is clinging to the hope of resuming its next football cash, uh, clash, by just pretending coronavirus isn't there... (the "U.S. government" approach). After testing, 5 La Liga players were diagnosed with the virus yesterday.

    Financially, each women's club loses out on €600,000 from the TV deal with the unplayed games.

    Barça captain Vicky Losada would've preferred to win it on the field but said the team's 5th title was valid.

     
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  16. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    MORE​

    The Copa de la Reina will play its semifinals and final in 2020/21, meaning two cup finals are scheduled in one season! :eek:

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    Still retaining the cup: Real Sociedad, the 2019 winners
    (Aintxein, cc-by-sa)


    "For its part, the Iberdrola Challenge (Second Division) would consist of 34 teams, that is, two groups of 17 teams, provided that the Nacional [3rd] category can be resolved with an express play-off at the sole venue and four promotion tickets." - (Marca.com)

    [​IMG] Nigerian striker Charity Adule is promoted with her club Eibar - after 22 matches they were northern runners-up to Athletic Bilbao B, who can't be promoted.

    'We've achieved our goal' - Adule celebrates Spanish Primera Iberdrola promotion with Eibar
    https://www.goal.com/en/news/weve-a...er-spanish-primera/1vys33s9tbj2u12uct3i9tsh9v
     
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  17. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
  18. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    When men's La Liga restarted last week, Diego Costa raised a Virginia Torrecilla 14 jersey, in honour of his Atlético Madrid clubmate after she had brain surgery.


    If there's another lockdown and restart, Spain's male and female leagues should be treated equally - that's the message from the federation.
    Under Spanish law it classified only 2 football divisions as "professional competitions" - both in the men's league. From now on, this will also apply to the women's First and Second Divisions, and in futsal. The change passed after going to the government sports council (CSD).

    The debate continues for professionalization / Continúa el debate por la profesionalización de la Primera Iberdrola (Archive)
     
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  19. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Four teams will be promoted into the Second Division this weekend, with the playoffs happening at a central venue in Madrid. Teams include the Real Betis and Espanyol 'B' selections:

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    https://es.besoccer.com/noticia/eso...lay-off-de-ascenso-a-la-reto-iberdrola-854493 (Archive)

    All games at the RFEF headquarters in Las Rozas de Madrid - these clubs were the winners of the 7 Nacional divisions plus a runner-up Almassora from Valencia.

    In the Primera Division, Eibar and Santa Teresa have won promotion without playoffs (and no relegations this year).

    Champions League: The final rounds in August will all be played in the Basque country in Bilbao and San Sebastián.
    Barcelona's manager, Lluís Cortés, has a contract extension to 2021; the national champions are in training camp now for the new season. Their upcoming opponents in the CL quarter-final, Atlético Madrid, began their training on 5 July.
     
  20. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Two days until Barça v Atlético in the Champions League 2019/20, and there are huge headaches for the Atleti coach Dani González...

    5 members of the squad or staff contracted coronavirus - thus losing players, and suspending days of first-team training. Fortunately for the Madrid team, new signings are allowed to play, but there are too many for their squad for the CL knockout.

    La encrucijada del Atleti / Atleti's crossroads in the Champions League: 6 casualties, 8 signings - (AS.com, Archive)

    Atlético have signed England midfielder Jade Moore on loan from Orlando, announced today, but the AS.com article above seems to say Moore isn't eligible to play for them this week.

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    Atlético's stopgap: Jade Moore (left), with Caroline Weir
    (Ailura, CC BY-SA 3.0 AT)
     
  21. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    The CL quarterfinal in Bilbao:



    Match report, 'Hamraoui tumba a un gran Atlético' / 'Hamraoui knocks down a great Atlético' (Eurosport)
    Atlético: Hedvig Lindahl; Alia Guagni, Aissa Tounkara, Merel van Dongen, Carmen Menayo (Emelyne Laurent, m.72); Turid Knaaak (Ana Marcos, m.88), Amanda Sampedro, Jade Moore, Kylie Strom; Ángela Sosa (Alexandra Chidiac, m.88); y Toni Duggan. Barcelona: Sandra Paños; Marta Torrejón, Andrea Pereira, Mapi León, Leila Ouahabi; Kheila Hamraoui, Alexia Putellas (Vicky Losada, m.91); Lieke Martens (Mariona Caldentey, m.63), Caroline Graham Hansen, Jenni Hermoso y Asisat Oshoala (Aitana Bonmatí, m.82). Gol: 0-1, m.80: Kheila Hamraoui
     
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  22. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    The Spanish League kicks off with a bang today: Real Madrid - Barcelona at 13:30 CET. (actually now!)

    Line-ups:

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  23. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
     

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