Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

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  1. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    "After we told everyone we didn't want him..."

    (It's not just specific to Juventus, of course, but I do kinda wish some fans would remember these incidents when they come out with "but the coach said!" or "but the player said!" like no one ever played the press in their lives.)
     
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  2. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    Cherundolo said something to the effect that every May the director of football's job was to recruit someone better than him and that his job was to become better than that someone.

    Looks like Wes has that quality
     
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  3. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    So it looks like McKennie is taking home the same pay as before his contract extension.
     
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  4. russ

    russ Member+

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    Have to wonder if the whole Leeds debacle soured Wes on England.
     
  5. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
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    Kettle!

    We keep going in circles with this. It seems to me your timeline is off.

    You're right that the club/coach "played the press after Wes refuses to sign his contract. Is it smart business practice? I think we agree here, no. Wes agrees to sign his extension and like magic he is back in the first team.

    Why did Chiesa continue to be held out until he was sold and not McKennie?
     
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  6. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    3 million plus bonuses at Aston Villa versus 2.5 million at Juve according to that and other reports.

    I didn't know that Italian teams or at least Juve don't pay bonuses. If they don't, it's the only country/club in world football that doesn't so I'd wonder about that source's reliability
     
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  7. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    Juve absolutely do, he just doesn't have any bonuses included in his contract.

    Not every player gets bonuses included.
     
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  8. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    2.5 million with Juventus versus 3 million plus bonuses (maybe 600k max?) at Aston Villa and unless I'm a lock starter, it's Juve every time.

    Don't get me wrong, but being Irish of a certain age I'm morally obliged to hate Juve - and we both know how shamefully unappreciated hate is as a quality in football ;) - but they're one of a half-dozen or so "name" teams with CL football every season, usually with trophies on top. That's not exactly Aston Villa.

    And if I'm planning on returning home around the 2026 WC, Juve will do a lot more for my branding opportunities. I mean, even the most casual fans know who and what Juve are. Villa are more of an "oh yeah, Villa. From Bristol, right?" side
     
  9. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
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    But what about the great Liam Brady!

    I will refrain from the comparison between clubs.
     
  10. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    Ireland Republic
    That's why I'm honour-bound to hate Juve!! :sneaky: Win 2 Scudettos in a row with him as #10 and you dump him for some French nobody is an outrage. All I can say is at least it wasn't Thierry Henry.

    Not that I'm bitter or anything
     
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  11. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

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    Fair enough. :thumbsup:
    No, no. For him, Juve practically gave him away to Arsenal.
     
  12. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    And to be serious - for once :cool: - I really would take Juve (or another of the top 3-4 Serie A sides) over Villa, branding opportunities or not.
     
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  13. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

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    Oh indeed it is. Such a long running shame!
     
  14. Pegasus

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    "What can be, unburdened by what has been"
     
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  15. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

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    I doubt he'd turn down one of the English giants or a club in London willing to pay him a fortune. But going from Juventus to Aston Villa, even if the latter might be the better club at the moment, wouldn't have been a very glamorous career move.
     
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  16. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

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    Everything worked out. Until next summer when the annual “find a new club” dance begins.
     
  17. mace

    mace Member+

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    Jun 5, 2004
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    Is the reported Juve salary after tax and the Villa salary before tax? That would make the Juve salary likely a better deal.
     
  18. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

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    I'm almost positive both are net.
     
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  19. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
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    I see the brace. Anyone know the status of that shoulder.
     
  20. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

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    It has to be bothersome at the least. Just imagine trying to play physical and getting shouldered or doing that to someone on that side. We all talk about his wolverine healing but maybe it's just he's able to play through pain more than others but e doesn't look optimal. Is it better to play hurt (and don't forget his coaches know and play him even start him) or wait until completely healthy?
     
  21. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    In Italy they report everything as Net, even salaries overseas.
     
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  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    In my opinion yeah. Remember, he was nearly going to Liverpool before they lowballed Fulham. Still, would have been a sight to see what Deuce could get up to in the CL back in the day.
     
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  23. Nastrabrahmus

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    Starting again today
     
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  24. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    Aside from a couple geniuses on here, no one was counting him out. I actually think some of you believed all of that nonsense. Let's hope the idiotic echo chamber of negativity about Wes dies down.

    And these jokes about him being fat or out of shape are neither funny nor particularly accurate. Not sure what you guys are trying to prove with that. Wes is a good player on a top team in a top league.
     
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  25. BostonRed

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