Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by hokeydokey, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    lol from one of their fan sites:[​IMG]
     
  2. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    eh

    wes sacrificed defensively with schalke and he was great at it

    its all mental and choice...his workrate is lower now.

    some of it may be different scheme, different directions...idk....

    good teams need runners ...yeah....thats a strength for wes....but its not that amazing if it comes at the expense of not playing defense. players can usually do either one or the other.....so this isnt groundbreaking news here.

    i think wes likes the ball.....he wants it. not sure where that came from ...but i disagree....he gets rid of it fast...but he wants it.

    i wish he would go back to playing like he did in the bundesliga.
     
  3. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I think they were complimenting Wes, though I was also initially confused by the phrasing. I think they were saying that it's rare and valuable to have a CM who can frequently find himself so far advanced in the attack without the team needing to sacrifice its defensive structure to achieve that.
     
  4. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh ok yeah that makes more sense

    this is why i was so excited when tyler adams and wes were young players...i thought with both of them as your 2 CMs....you can cover everything defensively and also have some offense from them as well......while getting another attaker on the field

    i would like to see them in a 4-4-2...but no one plays that anymore
     
  5. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    What a shame Dempsey never got to appear in the Champions League!
     
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  6. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Yeah, one of the best things an in form McKennie brings to the game is that ability to impact the game in multiple areas. He can be a defensive presence and still give you moments in attack. He's not clean on the ball and likely never will be. But, he moves well on the field and gets into positions to help out on both sides of the ball. When he's fit and focused, you can practically give him two jobs and he'll get them both done.
     
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  7. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not saying that he is afraid of the ball or anything, he doesn't want the ball to dictate tempo. As you said, Wes gets rid of it fast, he doesn't take a lot of touches. Look at his touches in comparison to his teammates. He doesn't take a lot of touches and misses a lot of passes. That just isn't his game. Over his career, he has averaged a pass% of 76.5 and 37.6 touches per game.
     
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  8. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    When he isnt spending too much time at Mickey D's. He looked like he was wearing lead boots this summer but good for him if he has his arse in gear.
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  10. NorcalHockeyhooligan

    Feb 25, 2012
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I just watched the Champions League post match show (P+) and Thierry pointed out it was Wes that got the “ball rolling” for the Yildiz goal, basically a secondary hockey assist! :thumbsup: Hopefully his performance today will get him more starts.
     
  11. Dizi

    Dizi Member

    Feb 13, 2015
    Club:
    DC United
    that was my fav play

    mck’s involvement was so understated but he read the aerial clearance perfectly and bumped his opponent off balance, without fouling, so the ball dropped to him while shielding pressure

    quickly distributed to a nearby teammate and yildiz did the rest
     
  12. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Piano movers and piano players...and even with McK's bum shoulder, he can move a damn piano!
     
  13. Seanin

    Seanin Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Never count this guy out. Managers always discover they need him.
     
  14. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He does at times make bad passes in bad spots but a lot of his missed passes are when he tries to spring teammates in advanced positions. That was the difference for me between McKennie and Tillman yesterday. Tillman played a lot od safe passes that look good on the rating sheet after the game but don't do anything to put pressure on the defense while Wes is willing to look foolish at times but can make that quick pass to spring his teammate or a long run to be in position to make that easy finish.
     
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  15. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Completely understand what you're saying but will push back slightly on Wes. It is what keeps him a good midfielder and not a great midfielder. If he could understand when is the right time to do it and when it is unneeded. He had a terrible give-a-way yesterday with a needless flick from the right touchline into the center of the field in our defensive 1/3. Ultimately it didn't lead to a goal against, but it puts the team in a tough situation for no reason. If he does that in the attacking 1/3, no harm because that is what creative players need to do. With that said, that would be the next step in his evolution as a player and if he can do that...watch out! IMO.
     
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  16. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So... you are looking for a MF that never misses a pass in their defensive 3rd? Good luck with that. In all seriousness... I think there are MFs out there that are more secure with the ball... but I don't understand how you can fault that performance. It was masterful outside of that pass. If he played like that every game there wouldn't be a team in the world that wouldn't want him.
     
  17. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Players miss passes in their defensive 1/3, it happens. The blind backheel to the middle of the field to no one that was the problem.

    Otherwise It was a great game from him, I wouldn't call it masterful. You're right though, if he played like that every game, he would have had many more suitors than Aston Villa and
    Turkish clubs.
     
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  18. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That missed pass/flick for me was bad given where it happened. I’m not sure Wes even knew exactly where his target and defender were so can’t say whether it was mishit or just poor decision making, or both. Thankfully, nothing came of it.
     
  19. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    I didn't see the pass in question but he also killed a nice series of passes out of the back under pressure by passing to the wrong team. It wasn't a terrible mistake but unfortunate given where it was and how it was avoidable. But some rust is also understandable and mistakes happen. The other pass sounds more ill advised.
     
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  20. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    “I like Weston, like all other players,” Motta said. “It was his time to start today. It’s a good result for starting the competition. Now, we must recover for the next game. Weston is part of a strong group... The important thing is not my decision. This is my duty. I must field the best 11. I am happy for McKennie. Like all the others, he’s working to improve. The important thing is that the team won today.”

     
  21. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
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    Macca bringing the magic ​
     
  22. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    "It was always my plan for him to be out of my plan until he was part of my plan."
     
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  23. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "We're really glad that he decided to sign his extension so he could be re-integrated back into the club"
     
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  24. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Juventus's plan since first offering a new contract in early 2024 was not to give McKennie a 1 year extension that let's him sit in the driver's seat and have everybody revisit the same summer transfer scenario in 2025.

    But it was good to see Juventus backtrack. McKennie is fine either way as he continues to have options.
     

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