Who says he doesn't play for 10 months? We saw Juve try and push Wes out last season too. Juve eventually reintegrated him and he was an important piece.
Wes was back playing with the club in July. He played all through preseason. He’s not training with the first team at this point.
I don't blame the players, any player, trying to get their bag. Their career is only one injury away.
Just a data point for conversation (pretty big data point IMO). Adrien Rabiot is still without a club 1 day from the start of the season for just about all the big leagues.
Bolding mine. I'm pretty sure they can't unilaterally terminate his contract. Not in Europe. They could buy him out of his contract, or negotiate a buy-out price, or offer him a 'letter of freedom,' but they can't just rip the contract up. (Not a lawyer, and others here will know much more than I do, but I'm certain this is true.)
If they’re pulling a Tek they would obviously have to come to an agreement with the player. If Wes thinks he can get a deal at another club with Juve being out of the picture and also get a little payday for leaving then he would be willing to go the termination route.
Is he already out of contract? That's arguably much bigger news, because he's a much bigger player. Wes is in a unique situation in that he can be picky and can shop himself around. Not many ever players get that kind of luxury.
He was actually set to be out of contract last summer before signing a 1 year stop-gap renewal at the last minute. Then this spring, Juve offered him a 3 year deal at his current salary (with a lil added to make up for the growth decree tax increase), and he turned it down. He's currently being linked to a bunch of PL clubs and Galatasaray, but there are rumors that his momagent is asking for too much in agent's fees.
Rabiot was making €7 million a season, net, and that's not enough for him. He asked for a higher salary and word is his mom was asking for 20-30% in fees.
The data point was in regards to Wes getting more money as a free agent next summer and his pick of club that is going to offer his pay increase. While probably not playing any significant game time outside of the USMNT for 10 months. Rabiot, a better player, France starter, in his prime hasn't received the interest he thought he was going to get...again. Happened last year as well.
Right, but I don't get the sense that WM's stance is based on thinking he'll get a huge new deal next year, as much as it is on the certainty he has a good financial deal with Juve for the current year, and possibly they they had an agreement during covid to defer some of his wages - with Juve trying to force him out to a (probably) worse deal now. Yes, Rabiot is a cautionary tale for WM that being out of contract doesn't mean that you get to fill in the wage amount on your new contract, but it is still reasonable to assume that a team not having to pay a transfer fee will have more $$ available for wages. Talk about data points, Rabiot has multiple showing that he or his people overrate his status (e.g. his refusal to be a World Cup alternate).
That is fair. Juventus spent their only money this summer on making their CM better while simultaneously saying Wes is out of the project. Hopefully Wes can get a move so that we don't have to compare notes at the end of the year.
Whether or not sitting for a year is beneficial mostly depends on the accuracy of the reports that he is demanding €4m-€5m net from his next club, and whether that demand stays firm once he's a free agent. It certainly feels like there is a market correction going on outside of the PL with regards to salaries, so asking most clubs for €5m net isn't going to fly outside of England. But I also think that people aren't considering what Juve is asking of purchasing clubs. We've seen reports that Juve wants anywhere from €10m to €20m in either a swap deal or a purchase. When you amortize that down (and, yes, amortization happens with swap deals, since those are just purchases followed by a swift sale in the other direction), it adds €2m - €4m to Weston's yearly cost (assuming he's given a 5 year deal). So, when Wes asks for €4m per year, the clubs are actually hearing €6m to €8m per year. And, yeah, this is VERY back of the box math (I think most amortization are done on a slightly exponential scale, so it's actually more like 40% of the fee in year one, 20% year two, 10% year three, etc), but that doesn't make it any less of a factor for most clubs.
If I'm understanding what you're saying, the Juve - CR7 court ruling shows that Wes will get his deferred wages regardless of a transfer.
With Poch coming in as the new USMNT coach, does that change McKennie's evaluation of his club situation?
maybe he's not a locked-in starter, but I think the only people saying that he should've stayed in Italy this summer are the same people who have been calling him "bad" "lazy" or "out of shape" for most of his senior career. Outside of Johnny and Musah, no one is actually nipping at Weston's heels at this level. LDLT, Tillman, Busio, Morris, Diego Luna, etc etc etc, none of them have consistently out-shined Wes at the club level.
then they have so much money that they don't care ... and are just sending a message (to Wes and Chiesa and others) that they are unwilling to accept a lower bid for Wes than they wanted (so he could get a reasonable salary elsewhere with a good Euro club). Only answer for Wes is tick tock tick tock - wait it out - get paid - stay healthy - train on his own .... "under performing players" - Wes did not underperform last year and yet they want him to accept less. For him it may be wise to sit it out .....
Except Juve hasn't received one official bid for Wes. There have been approaches, but he's shot them all down. He's being very selective and it's hurting his chances of finding a team. It's not Juve's job to lower their transfer fee so Wes could get a higher salary elsewhere. I think it says more about Wes than anyone else that he's has so few inquiries and other teams are not willing to meet his demands. This transfer season has been terrible for free agents, and those that have inflated sense of self worth. Nowhere did I say that Wes underperformed, if you look through my posts in this thread you'll see that I said the opposite. Wes isn't anywhere near one of the highest paid players either. Sometimes people just need to realize that a new coach comes in and he has other ideas, there are players he wants and doesn't want. Wes is a player he doesn't want, it's been made clear to him and the media numerous times. Him also having an expiring contract makes him even less likely to break into the first team. The same exact thing is happening with Chiesa.
La Juventus sta seriamente riconsiderando la posizione di Weston McKennie che può essere reintegrato.Come anticipato dalla Gazzetta, il centrocampista americano adesso apre al rinnovo. Dialoghi in corso.— Matteo Moretto (@MatteMoretto) August 16, 2024 This says Juventus is reconsidering reintegrating McKennie back into the squad and that he is open to a contract renewal.