Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

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  1. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    There are also non EU-player limits in Spain, which adds an extra wrinkle for Wes. If a club in La Liga really wanted him, they could make it happen, but it's not an insignificant hurdle.
     
  2. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if Wes is close to eligibility for EU citizenship? He's lived in EU countries for a long time. That said, he's at a level where if a team isn't willing to use a non-EU spot on him, he should not go.
     
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  3. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  4. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Fiorentina want you but Juve don't mind if you leave?

    Leave Juve
     
  5. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    When they say "Juve has given the green light" they are omitting "for a transfer fee or as part of a swap deal for Nico Gonzalez" and its worth noting that most Fiorentina journos say that Fiorentina are not interested in a swap deal, they'd prefer cash.

    So we're in the same position as before: does Fiorentina give Weston a bigger contract despite a transfer fee OR can Weston convince Juve to pay him a severance package OR can Fiorentina convince Juve to sell Wes for a significant discount?
     
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  6. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017


    If the FCC interest was legit, they might have a path forward now that Boupendza is out. MLS secondary transfer window closes on August 14th, so the deal would have to come together quickly.
     
  7. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think it will happen, but if FCC offers around 10-12m to Juve and could pay Wes what he requires...
     
  8. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    I'm not sure this will make "Wes to FCC" any more likely, but at the very least, FCC did not have to buy him out of his contract:
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I thought Boupendza had quietly quit already.
     
  10. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    I think this is more-or-less right. The alleged reason for termination is that he, "didn't fulfill his contractual obligations", although these are attributed to unnamed sources.
     
  11. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Florence or Cincinnati .... gee I think I know which place I would rather play in ....

    hope it works out as a nice compromise for all parties ... like always - day by day Juve's investment is depreciating ... tick tock tick tock ....
     
  12. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Florence doesn't have chili with cinnamon , spaghetti,onions and cheese.
    Plus no Hell is Real rivalry.
    So it's not even close is it?
     
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  13. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Pure insanity that Wes can't get more transfer despite his solid performances last season.
     
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  14. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    That’s the thing, it was one season bordering on excellence and even then Juve still deems him a guy they can live without. Not too surprising it’s taking this long.
     
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  15. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it is a beautiful city ....

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    or

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  16. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll preface this with I believe Connor Gallagher is a better player than Wes but not by too much. Connor Gallagher getting 40m for him in his final year yet no one seems to be willing to pay 15m for Wes?

    Like Wes, Gallagher wanted to stay but Chelsea has been pretty open that he needed to go. So it can't be because of that.
     
  17. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Gallagher twice rejected a new contract that would've paid him significantly more. However, it was only a 2 year deal with option for a 3rd, so Chelsea wasn't showing much faith in him for the long term.
     
  18. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Wes performance at Leeds.
     
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  19. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  20. kickin365

    kickin365 Member+

    Mar 4, 2002
    I think the prevailing view here is a bit fatalistic.

    If Wes doesn’t move he’s too expensive for the board to feel they get nothing out of him. Motta saying he is not in his plans could be true but also is to help force a deal. Once injuries happen or production is low he’ll look silly pretty quickly for not considering the team assist leader from last season.

    it’s not like Wes did anything wrong, he’s well liked in the team from all accounts and played pretty well last year - not Juve’s weakest link by any means.

    he can wait this out, fight for playing time, likely get just as much, if not more salary as a free agent and go where he pleases.

    No way Juve lets him just rot for a year.
     
  21. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I’m not sure this is always the case. For superstars…sure. For players of Wes’ ability and stature? I am a bit more dubious. Yes he can sign a pre-contract beginning in January….but my perception is the overwhelming majority of clubs aren’t thinking about next season until the summer. In the summer…unless there are multiple clubs offering Wes what his salary demands are…the clubs can easily wait Wes out. Missing preseason training is a pretty big deal…

    Wes is as likely to end up in Brook’s situation as he is to land the contract he’s looking for…particularly if he doesn’t end up getting any time this fall and nobody bites in the January window.
     
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  22. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    He might have gotten feedback that the big MLS salary is far more likely if no transfer fee will be involved. I have no problems with Wes seemingly content to see out his contract. It's what I wish Reyna would have done.
     
  23. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Look at Rabiot, he still hasn't signed with a team. A lot of people will say that he's a bigger name than McKennie and he hasn't received a ton of offers, especially at the salary he was demanding. Just because someone is free to sign elsewhere doesn't mean they'll get what they're looking for, or have the clubs coming knocking.

    Same thing happened with Dybala, demanded a higher wage, Juve said no thanks, people thought he had tons of offers and it turned out the only serious offer was from Roma, he left for Roma and wound up signing for less than he was making at Juve.
     
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  24. kickin365

    kickin365 Member+

    Mar 4, 2002
    Right but if Juve is low balling him now, some reports were he’d have to take a pay cut, he likely won’t do worse than that on the open market as a free agent, And he keeps his higher pay this year.
     
  25. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the market has reset and a lot of the players haven't realized it yet. The financial record keeping side has made it tougher for rich clubs and COVID and TV deals for some leagues have dealt blow to poorer clubs. Other clubs are taking advantage of that and not offering what they did even last year.
     
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