Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

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  1. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    What Juve fan is saying Wes shouldn't act in his own best interest? You come across as arguing with yourself.
     
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  2. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, what? That he'd prefer a move to Roma over Leicester? It's been widely reported on various sites/journos.
     
  3. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    Again, there are reputable sources and not reputable. It could be reported in one source, and it apparently has been, but nobody else is saying what they're saying. Juve isn't really doing anything other teams don't do. Lots of teams sell players if they get a great offer. Lots of teams don't want to sell to competitors, look at Bologna and Juve in regards to Calafiori.
     
  4. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    He doesn't have to be paid the same salary, players do sign an extension with a different salary structure all the time. Also, nobody is arguing that Wes won't be paid in his last year of his contract. As for a transfer, it's still too early to tell what will happen.

    Not sure who's saying he should be doing that.
     
  5. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Wes had been getting what an average "squad player" got paid at Juve. This amount appears to have come down since Andrea Agnelli got forced out as chairman (ex: Aaron Ramsey was making €3m net per year in 22/23, he played roughly as many minutes his entire spell at Juve as Wes did this season... Wes is getting €2.5m net) and since the growth decree ended (making non-Italian players as much of a tax-burden as Italians).

    The deal they allegedly wanted Weston to sign would have been the same gross salary he's getting paid now, but with the end of the growth decree tax rate, he would've been taking home less than he had in previous seasons. It's hard to read it as anything BUT a "kthxbye" hint.
     
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  6. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Literally I quoted the post that says he should have signed what Juve offered "6 months ago" - which, from all reports, was what he's already getting. I don't understand how everyone is pretending that post doesn't exist. It was the one I first responded to.
     
  7. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    But I never claimed it was a "good source." I just claimed it was reported. I got no ideas who's accurate. And never claimed to. It's the "I never saw it so I doubt it happened" crowd that annoys me. A personal peccadillo, perhaps.
     
  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Lol.... So you doubted it was reported that Roma was a "dream" but you knew it was widely reported he preferred Roma to Lester? Again, just my cranky curmudgeonly self I guess, but that's just such weird syntactic parsing. "I knew he preferred Roma, but I don't believe you saw a quote where it was reported a 'dream move'" - ok... sigh.
     
  9. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Why is everyone acting like post 20991 does not exist? Am I the only one that sees it? Is it some mysterious oracle only visible to me...

    I mean, read it, then we can talk, because that is the post I was responding to originally that the other Juve fans have now piled on (with Ross smartly slipping into the crowd... lol)
     
  10. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Upstate NY
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    United States
    lol because a player prefers a move to one club over another means it’s a dream move? That’s a new one.
     
  11. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    "I know he prefers Roma to Lester, but I refuse to believe he would call it a 'dream move' because I've not seen the quote myself! It's a g*ddamn syllogism, Eddie!"
     
  12. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    lol ok cool.

    Time to move on from Soule.
     
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  13. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    I assume you know he’s not a Juve fan? I mean it’s right there in the name.
     
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  14. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    Probably because no on really agrees with what he is saying and isn't worth a response?
     
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  15. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

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    Marcotti didn't specify, but I would assess that he was talking about the current 2.5m. If it was the reported wage demands, I would imagine Marcotti or Jules would have specified.

    I can't imagine that Wes or his team would be asking for 5m net, or that could also be his team saying pay us that or we wait out the year and leave for free.
     
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  16. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Fine, but if folks simply said that we'd have saved many innocent bytes of ethers.
     
  17. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I don't care if he's Chiellini hizself. He wrote something I thought was silly. I responded. A bunch of other posters jumped in and argued with me... and apparently some of those actually agree it was silly too.... So I'm kinda confused. But I also think this has become a dumb conversation about a silly post that has gone on too long, so I'm happy to drop it and wait for some real Wes news.
     
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  18. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
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    Liverpool FC
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    That's a pretty low engagement strategy.This thread might drop to page 2 if we did that. Can't we at least post fat memes?
     
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  19. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Well, Football-Italia is reporting that Juve have set Wes' price: "Weston McKennie is available for €15m-18m." So I'm consider that news. Not much else out there. Everton and Miami still mentioned, and Juve is reportedly going to end the fiscal year with close to 200 mill Euro loss...
     
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  20. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
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    Oct 16, 2017
    This would set a new MLS incoming transfer record, currently held by Atlanta United (Thiago Almada for roughly €14.5m).
     
  21. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    My guess is that price might be a bit optimistic, if they insist on that number POD. I'd imagine it's reachable with sell-ons etc. but the whole world knows they're willing to let him go and he's inside a year on the contract... Not a great negotiating position.
     
  22. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Sure, I'm just pointing out just how unprecedented Weston's move to FCC would've been. Even when Jozy et al were purchased in 2013, none of their prices came close to what Juve wants for Weston. Bogert's confirmation made me sit up, but the MLS link never made total sense to me from an MLS team's financial standpoint.
     
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  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Cory Gibb's stalking horse?
     
  24. Suyuntuy

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    PS: Avoid the comments.
     
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  25. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
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    Always!
     
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