Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

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  1. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    Howdy - I've already requested that be dropped as a topic - happy to take more heavy handed measures if necessary.
     
  2. aeschylusdanceparty

    NYRB
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    Jun 3, 2021
    I think Juve bought Weston just because he is a swell fellow
     
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  3. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
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    Brooklyn Knights
    Their fans have a nickname for him that is endearing when he's playing well and perhaps a minor insult when he's not: "snacks".

    That's perfect, he does have that chubby, cherubic face.

    The thing the separates the elite players from the merely solid or good ones is if course consistency. There was an awesome post a few pages ago about the few times a US player has had that 'world class' form and it's not been often. If Weston can sustain this form throughout the year he can start to be considered a true heir to Vidal at Juve.
     
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  4. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
    SoCal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed on Pogba.

    ------------------------Locatelli
    --------McKennie-----------------Pogba

    ^^^ is a midfield that I would love to roll with. All three have different characteristics that make me believe it would be very balanced. Locatelli as the person to dictate play and tempo while also being more than capable defensively. Wes to be the b2b midfielder with late runs into the box and Pogba being the creative midfielder who adds both goals and assists.
     
  5. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    and Pogba doesn't have to worry about being a leader if he is on Weston's team

    Just watched the Fiorentina game and WM was playing at a higher speed...
     
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  6. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    There's a lot of truth to it. HIs current wages are €14 million though, which Juve has stated is too high. Raiola has indicated that he's willing to take a wage cut as long as they offer him a 3 year deal. Allegri loves Pogba and Pogba loves Allegri, they had a great relationship together at Juve.

    Pogba at Juve the first time was great, not sure how it would be this time around. Maybe he would find that magic again, or maybe ManU ruined him permanently. It's a risk though.
     
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  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    To be fair, I'm not sure ManU ruined him - he had an active hand in it. Or perhaps I should say inactive sometimes disinterested hand in it. I don't know if his arrival would be good or bad for WM's development. If it means he has to stay back and play more defensively to cover the messes Pogba often creates, I'm not sure that's a positive. Nowadays it seems Pogba is at his best when he has a 2 players in 1 Kante' next to him.
     
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  8. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    I think McKennie, Pogba, Locatelli and one other could work.
     
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  9. oscar_in_fw

    oscar_in_fw Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Kansas City
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    United States
    Busio of course.
     
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  10. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
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    He definitely would not have the same high wage demands.
     
  11. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
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    United States
    Unless Pogba is a different player for Juventus than he is for ManU, don't bet anything on him. The guy is more up and down in his performances than any player I've seen in any sport. He's truly among my favorites when he is near or at his best, but he does nothing to help the team at all other times and, during about 50% of those other times, he really drags the team down. I've finally come to the conclusion that he is incorrigible and a permanent non-fit for ManU. Good riddance.
     
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  12. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    It's so weird when a player as obviously talented as Pogba is so erratic. I don't have a strong opinion how going to Juve at this point would affect him or the team, but it would still be cool as heck for Wes to play with him. Resurgent or erratic, he's still an incredible player in moments.
     
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  13. DMTerp02

    DMTerp02 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Annapolis, MD
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    United States
    Fairly good deal for Juve to replace overpaid Bosmans Rabiot and Ramsey with overpaid Bosman Pogba IMO. At least you have the chance that Pogba returns to form/cares while with the other two, they are what they are. (or aren't, really)
     
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  14. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
    And Rabiot and Ramsey replaced Bosman Emre Can
     
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  15. YankatOxford

    YankatOxford Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
    Ramsey is a shadow of the player he was. I really liked watching him as a neutral as well.
     
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  16. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
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    I hope they let McKennie go straight back to Juve. That makes the most sense. It’s best for Wes, Juve and ultimately USsoccer. He’ll get the extra days back with his club and be ready to go for Juves next fixture.
     
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  17. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
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    Yes, please! Big run of matches coming up as well. Lazio, Chelsea, Atalanta.
     
  18. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Wes is becoming The Prince That Was Promised
     
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  19. usnroach

    usnroach Member+

    Jul 5, 2009
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    That was Claudio Marchisio (il principino) ;):thumbsup:
     
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  20. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

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    Griff
     
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  21. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    Think the Tottenham rumors are crazy unless they’re offering him a significant wage increase, though perhaps a….social young man such as Wes would prefer the London scene.

    From a sporting perspective it makes no sense
     
  22. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
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    Unless Conte has a specific need for him (i.e., as long as this is not some crazy idea coming from Spurs management without Conte's input).
     
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  23. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    United States
    And he has reportedly departed camp to go back to Juventus.
     
  24. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

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    Either way, he's about due a wage increase. He's a starter getting paid like he's an academy grad first breaking into the squad.
     
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  25. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
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    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    I'd like to know why he didn't get a pay raise (or a greater pay raise) when Juventus decided to complete the purchase of him after his performances last year. Seems to me Wes' agent did a poor job negotiating that (upfront when he was still on books with Schalke?)

    I could understand if there was some doubt once he arrived (and he was on a certain wage at the beginning), but once he 'proved' himself last season- became a mostly-starter....something in his contract should have scaled his pay much higher than this (current)
     
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