South AMerican Clubs?

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by MadridForLife, Sep 27, 2003.

  1. MadridForLife

    MadridForLife New Member

    Oct 13, 2002
    Worcester, MA
    I am familiar with the Brazilan and Argentine league so I know which clubs are good and have history. I don't know much abou other leagues. What are the othere big clubs and/or succesful clubs in South America. Thanks
     
  2. Ronaldinho11

    Ronaldinho11 Red Card

    Jul 28, 2003
    San Pedro Sula
    Club:
    CD Olimpia
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Colombia: America de Cali, Deportivo Cali are usually on top.

    Venezuela: Maracibo is the only one I know of

    Uruguay: Nacional and Penarol are high class (its like Boca x River Uruguay version)

    Bolivia: The strongest and Bolivar are the strongest(BTW the team name is "the strongest", just in case you were confused)

    Peru: Alianza Lima is the one with the best history but seem to be struggling of late in south american competition.

    Chile: Universidad Catolica and Colo Colo are the favorites and both hate each other.

    Paraguay: Olimpia is the best (last years Copa libertadores champion)

    Ecuador: Barcelona and Emelec are usually strong, but not in Libertadores, etc.

    If I missed one excuse me I'm central American and thats the ones that appeal to me but if you want you could politely name them if you wish, thank you.

    P.S. Just so you start to get to know them , In Honduras Olimpia is the best!!!!
     
  3. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Like Ronaldinho said, in Colombia America de Cali is one of the most succesful clubs in the country, been to 3 or 4 Libertadores finals, never has won one tho. Deportivo Cali (btw they are rival clubs) is also one of the strong teams in the local league, were finalist in 99 for Libertadores. Atletico Nacional de Medellin is probably one of the biggest, mostly cause they are the "King of cups" in Colombia, only Colombian team to have won the Libertadores back in '89 thanks to Rene Higuita (GK). D. Independiente Medellin, has won the fewer domestic cups of the ones mentioned, but its a strong team none the less, Semifanilist in this years Libertadores along with America de Cali. The "embajadores," (embassadors) Millonarios from Bogota, were big during the golden era of soccer in Colombia, but lately they have dropped behind the 4 aforementioned. Junior, Once Caldas, I. Santa Fe, have also had their spells of good football.
     
  4. JuanArango82

    JuanArango82 New Member

    Mar 22, 2003
    Guatire, Venezuela
    Oh my good im having a heart attack.

    Caracas FC 6x champion in 19 years

    Maracaibo- nothing they are a new team

    Venezuela - its Estudiantes de Merida and Caracas thats it.
     
  5. loloy_vinotinto

    loloy_vinotinto New Member

    Mar 22, 2003
    Maracaibo, Venezuela
    Nothing... yet first time out... Clausura champs...
     
  6. DanRod78

    DanRod78 New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
    Venezuela has have some good soccer teams but they are not around anymore (I'm not going to say why to not make this too long)

    Venezuelan big teams (history):
    - Caracas FC (6 times champions)
    - Tachira FC (5 times champions)
    - Estudiantes de Merida
    - Union Atletico Maracaibo (young team, growing very fast, biggest stadium in Venezuela)

    Venezuelan great teams that are not around:
    - Minerven (I think made it to Copa L. quarterfinals, and had the leading scorer)
    - Deportivo Galicia and Deportivo Italia
    - And many others.
     
  7. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    fo peru you have

    universitario-financial crisis all the time
    alianza - eternal losers 17 years without a championship;)

    sporting cristal-peru most stable team

    both sporting and universitaio have made the libertadores final

    then you have
    sport boys
    cienciano of cuzco
    alianza atletico of sullana

    and thats about it
     
  8. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    You mentioned Sport Boys for me. Tell the truth. :D

    You did forget to mention that they are from Callao.
     
  9. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    you are right

    i knew trhat if i didnt you would mention them instead so i bet you to it

    mind you the only good thing sport boys have going for them is calavera orejuela;)
     
  10. MikeyPez

    MikeyPez New Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Jersey City NJ
    Ecuador's top four are Barcelona, Emelec, Nacional, LDU Quito
     
  11. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Nope. Bolivar is very much the best club in Bolivia since '85 but Strongest is at the same level as Wilstermann, Oriente Petrolero and Blooming.

    If you mean which is the best club this year The Strongest has the leg up but it's still very much a toss up. Bolivar currently sucks a lot but they've too much talent to stay that way.
     
  12. JuanArango82

    JuanArango82 New Member

    Mar 22, 2003
    Guatire, Venezuela
    I was watching Gol Tv and I saw a Bolivian team called Universidad Potos.

    I had good laugh.
     
  13. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    you still cant beat deportivo wanka
     
  14. AtNacional

    AtNacional Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Washington DC
    This usually does not occur anymore. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    well Cali was on top for a while, but now lost it to U. Magdalena, althought there has been like 5 leader changes in the past week or so.
     
  16. AtNacional

    AtNacional Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Washington DC
    Yeah, well I was mainly talking about America de Cali. Ever since De La Pava left its all criticism, ties and losses for the team. Castro is not Bianchi.
     
  17. naked_bartender

    naked_bartender New Member

    Sep 30, 2003
    New Orleans, LA
    Barcelona from Ecuador has been in the Copa Libertadores final twice (1990-1998), and Emelec has not missed Copa Libertadores since 1998. You might say that Barcelona and Emelec are not that strong, but we are not that weak either.
     
  18. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    welcome here bartender!

    among 10 teams league that could not be too difficult!? ahh

    is either emelec or barcelona, any mistakes and LDQ will take the left overs.
     
  19. AtNacional

    AtNacional Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Washington DC
    It looks like Quito's goalie ate everyone's left overs.
    :(
     
  20. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    e???
     
  21. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    im guessing quito goali is fat

    so ecuador only has 10 teams?

    any plans for expanding the numbers?

    peru currently has 12 but next year there will be 14
    i think the goal is 16 teams
     
  22. AtNacional

    AtNacional Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Washington DC
    Bingo!

    Really? I thought Peru already had around 16 teams. Which peruvian team has done the best in Copa libertadores?
     
  23. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Subcampeón

    1972 Universitario
    1997 Sporting Cristal

    Overall records and participation might be a better manner in which to answer the question, but here are the two runner-ups. Peru has obviously never won the final.

    1972 looked like a good year for Peru.

    In the goal scorers list, three Peruvian club players led the way...all with six (6). See others...

    1972 Teófilo CUBILLAS (PER) Alianza Lima (PER) 6
    Oswaldo RAMÍREZ (PER) Universitario (PER) 6
    Percy ROJAS (PER) Universitario (PER) 6

    1975 Oswaldo RAMÍREZ (PER) Universitario (PER) 8

    1978 Guillermo LA ROSA (PER) Alianza Lima (PER) 8

    1979 Juan José ORÉ (PER) Universitario (PER) 6
     
  24. AtNacional

    AtNacional Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Washington DC
    You ever heard of Cesar Cueto? ;)
     
  25. naked_bartender

    naked_bartender New Member

    Sep 30, 2003
    New Orleans, LA
    if we judge for the participation in copa libertadores, money and fans, Barcelona and Emelec are by far the ones who take all the goodies, but LDUQ from Quito is closely following Barcelona and Emelec's steps, they got their own stadium, and lots of wealthy people from Quito support LDUQ, but in the end you can say they are left with the left overs, je, je
     

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