Sources: Houston's soccer team to get new name

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  1. scarshins

    scarshins Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    fcva
    I say make Jamie ********ing Trecker pick the name.
     
  2. nobius

    nobius BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. DownSouth

    DownSouth New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    This whole name thing is asinine. There is probably no name that some group can't come up with a reason to be offended. Complainers shut up and lets play ball!
     
  4. scumark

    scumark New Member

    Jun 24, 2004
    Fremont, CA
    Totally ridiculous. Where else would you need to backpedal for referencing your own state's independence?
     
  5. nobius

    nobius BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The more I think about it, the more pissed off I get. 1836 needs to comment on the story.
     
  6. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Wherever a reference to said independence provokes a negative association and affects the client base and advertiser base.

    In other words... this is a BUSINESS decision.
     
  7. DownSouth

    DownSouth New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    How about we bombard the FO with complaints about any potential name change?
     
  8. chrishungate

    chrishungate Member

    Dec 16, 2005
    Katy, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really hope this is just a rumour, but I wouldn't put it past them to change it. If they do change it I hope it's not to anything with Lone Star or something ending in an "s". Maybe Houston 2006 (easy logo change, even though it's not as cool sounding as 1836) / Houston '06.

    Or if everyone could just please cater to me and choose:

    Apollo SC Houston (Apollo Soccer Club Houston) :D

    That was my initial desire for the team name to begin with, with 1836 being a close 2nd.

    Here's a thought, maybe if they would have given us more decent names to choose from besides just 1836 to begin with, we might not be having this problem. I could see a lot of us that voted for 1836 voting for something else given better options (like Apollo SC Houston, for instance - hint hint).

    Still, it's lame to make a big fanfare about a name choice, only to retract it a few weeks later. Talk about flaky.

    Man...now we're all worked up again over the name...will we have to go through the whole voting process all over again? Will they even let us vote on a replacement? Will people now riot because they've spent all this money on 1836 t-shirts?

    Whatever the outcome, it sure is a big mess. Lots of press, though.

    Long live 1836!
     
  9. truthandlife

    truthandlife Member

    Jul 28, 2003
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    To everyone who is not buying tickets because of the "so called" name change:

    From a marketing perspective you have to put yourself in the shoes of AEG and the new franchise. The franchise is trying to start-up and find sponsorship. There are a lot of hispanics in Houston. Even if 2% of hispanics are offended and these same 2% don't show up to the games, the leftist media as well as the so called hispanic leaders will continue to beat the drum so they have something to talk about and get their name in the spotlight. I really believe this is a manufactured thing but the new club has to create the perception that this franchise is for everyone. This name change does not guarantee hispanics will come out and watch the game. The name change just takes the controversy off of the table and helps to bring in sponsorship that might be reluctant to sponsor the team because of the so called "offensive" name of 1836.

    I will continue to put my money down for 8 season tickets because I have been waiting since the Houston Hurricanes (NASL team) left town in the late 70's and I want my family to see a superior product on the field in an awesome stadium to watch soccer.

    If they do change the name, let me know in a few weeks if you are still boycotting the Houston MLS franchise and not buying season tickets because of the name change. I hope you are with me on February 26th finding the seats you want at Robertson Stadium :)
     
  10. DownSouth

    DownSouth New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Wrong Carlos! This is a PC pressure issue. They stand to loose more than they will gain if they pander to the very few who likely won't be supporters even if the name is changed. Changinf would be a VERY BAD business decision (i.e. piss off all the real supporters).
     
  11. nobius

    nobius BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kristen Gambetta (kgambetta@houston1836.com) is the Account Executive for season tickets.
     
  12. lperez808

    lperez808 Member

    Apr 23, 2003
    Houston
    Im with you on that brother!!!
     
  13. anderson

    anderson Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to Gustavo Rangel's report in Rumbo about the name unveiling at Lanier, Houston 1836 was the choice of 24% of respondents to the official name poll (about 11,000 people reportedly voted).

    Of course, had there not been so many choices to split the voting, then maybe 1836 would've won a majority. But as the poll was set up, it apparently won a plurality.
     
  14. scarshins

    scarshins Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    fcva
    I never thought of Houston as a place full of drama queens.
     
  15. fireman451

    fireman451 Member+

    Jun 26, 2002
    The Midwest
    Club:
    --other--
    Dude, you do take this shit too seriously. It was joke, my commentary was a joke cabron.

    2000MARB = 2000 Mile Away Race Baitor, also a joke.

    Yikes.
     
  16. Markus Derailius

    Jan 23, 2006
    Houston, TEXAS
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone chill the fck out.
    Reserve any feelings until you hear the truth, not just some crap inacurate reporting trying to 'scoop' everyone else.
     
  17. BB020

    BB020 New Member

    Jan 27, 2006
    Houston
    I sent her an email complaining about the potential name change a couple hours ago. But haven't heard anything back yet. I also pleaded, that if they have to change the name, not to pick an animal...no gatos or stallions.
     
  18. nobius

    nobius BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're deluding yourself if you think that would be a good thing, especially on conservative talk shows. I can see Rush/O'Reilly et al ripping it because of the PC kowtowing and make this somehow to be an example of a foreign nation telling the US what to do. Mark my words.
     
  19. nobius

    nobius BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't hear back from her either. If this change turns out to be true, it would be more like Pollos 2006.
     
  20. Sempuukyaku

    Sempuukyaku Member+

    Apr 30, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Who the fvck are you? :confused:
     
  21. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I just couldn't figure out what it stood for. Now it makes sense.
     
  22. bford

    bford Member

    Houston Dynamo, Everton, USMNT
    Nov 30, 2004
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, Lone Star would be a horrifically horrible name. I will be pissed if it's changed. I will also continue to call the team 1836. I don't care. If anyone's offended, I'll say it louder.

    Also, Lone Star means back to red white and blue....how original!
     
  23. BobyOne

    BobyOne Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They won't change the name.

    They will introduce the "official" club nickname as The Lone Stars.

    This will allow the club to be called something that rolls more easily off the tongue, and yet still keep the official Houston 1836 moniker. This was probably the plan the whole time thinking back to Luck's comments about official nicknames and the large prominance of the star in the team badge.

    Someone at 11 News probably misread this and jumped on the "Hispanic community pressure" bandwagon.

    You heard it here first folks! No name change. Official nickname "The Lone Stars"!
     
  24. DrLudicrous

    DrLudicrous Member+

    Jun 28, 2002
    Houston
    We can only hope.
     
  25. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL

    It makes no business sense to alienate customers, many of whom already purchased season tickets, to assuage the feelings of a smaller number of non-customers. I wonder how many who profess to be offended have bought tickets?

    I suppose the answer would be none; they are offended. How many will buy tickets if the name is changed to at least something neutral -- The Armadillos? -- if not something directly appealing to them? Again, I would say none: 0 tickets presold, though perhaps some walkup sales when Houston plays Chivas USA.

    I can't say this for a fact, but the fact is tickets have been sold to a many of those who are happy with the current name. The point seems to be that the minority who object to the name have sufficient pull in the community to boycott any sponsors of the current team name -- and that creates an economic hardship for the team and the sponsors.

    What if those who do like the name, those who are in the majority, organize a boycott of their own? Now the team faces completely empty stands, since neither the offended current supporters, nor the appeased minority, show up for the games, and the sponsors are still hurt by an even larger group boycotting their goods and services.

    To avoid this worse-case scenario leave the name as is.

    On the other hand, it is a safe bet that a majority of non-Mexican fans will turn up regardless of the name. They just want to see football, while those who curently object to the name are still out of the picture at the stadium, but at least they haven't boycotted the sponsors.

    Chances are the name will be changed since money is at stake, and if some people don't support the team, at least the team can't be faulted for insulting them, even unintentionally .

    Whatever the name, it's bound to be better than the Earthquakes -- not to mention the Clash. I can't say I was fond of either one -- and it REALLY hurt to lose to teams so named!
     

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