some raw meat for pakovits

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Apr 9, 2003.

  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59692-2003Apr8.html

    Have fun, joe.
     
  2. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    Mongo like candy.
     
  3. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
  4. Yankee_Blue

    Yankee_Blue New Member

    Aug 28, 2001
    New Orleans area
    Fire him now. God knows the kids are much better off under the guidance of the teachers unions...
     
  5. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    As an uncaring atheist, I don't think what he said is bad, given the right context. He is just talking about what his best for his kid, not for all kids.
     
  6. Yankee_Blue

    Yankee_Blue New Member

    Aug 28, 2001
    New Orleans area
    Yea, but he said "Christian". He needs to go.
     
  7. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, hang him high.
     
  8. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    [Cab Calloway to the Blues Brothers] "Sounds like you boys need some churchin' up" ;)
     
  9. btousley

    btousley New Member

    Jul 12, 1999
    any chance these were personal preferences and not statements of public policy?
     
  10. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    "Where a child is taught to have a strong faith..." That's the problem. Who does the teaching? As a Christian, I really really really don't want the state involved in sanctioning any religion, and if I was Jewish or Muslim, I would be extremely troubled by this statement.
     
  11. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    And so it continues.
     
  12. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Look at his audience, the Baptist press. Of course he is going to advocate Christian values.
     
  13. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Then make those statements from your living room, to your momma. Not with the full and implied power of your office behind you in an official publication. He knows better than to try that weak response, and you should too. Speech may be free, but its never free of meaning.
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Anyone know if he's ever spoken to Jewish audiences, or Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, etc? It would be interesting to see what he would say in that case, if anything.
     
  15. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be interesting to see. I believe his response would be different, although he may still advocate religious learning, regardless of faith, over an education without faith.
     
  16. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    What, exactly, does a Department of Education do anyhow? Is there anything, really, beyond federal funding being doled out? Anything of consequence in the way of ideas, legislation etc.? Before you jump all over me, I realize that the steering of federal dollars can be influential. But I wonder if significant amounts are being spent on things that are ideological, like promoting voucher programs or federalizing local curriculum in any controversial way.

    I have no idea.

    From my perspective as a parent with Christian kids in public suburban schools is that all education is basically local. So, Rod Paige might just as well be spitting in the wind.
     
  17. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    Fine. Then he can easily do that while unemployed.
     
  18. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    He's in a position to steer public policy towards his personal preferences.
     
  19. Yankee_Blue

    Yankee_Blue New Member

    Aug 28, 2001
    New Orleans area
    So is everyone who holds public office. What's your point?
     

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