Some Random Thoughts About Television... [R]

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  1. xtomx

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    I don't mind things being fabricated. That is part of the creative process.

    But, to be just plain wrong with easily verifiable information is unforgiveable. I looked up the songs that sounded suspicious to me while watching the show.
     
  2. Belgian guy

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    But why not use a real football game if you are going to include one in a scene? Shouldn't take long to find one.
     
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    I do not remember the scene, but did it take place on a day when there was a "real football game" being broadcast?
    If so, I agree, although the costs of doing so might be higher than fabricating a game.
    Also, was this scene somewhat random or integral to the show? Again, I do not remember the scene.
     
  4. Belgian guy

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    It was during the border crossing scene in one of the later seasons. Smuggling Philip Jennings son out of the country.
     
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    LOL!

    But seriously, episode one starts with a guy taking a shit, episode two with full frontal male nudity? Save something for the penultimate episode, guys!

    Great show BTW. Reminds me of early GoT, like season one and two.
    Somewhere along the way, D&D forgot that it was okay to make this stuff funny.
     
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    What show is it?
     
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    A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms



    Adaptation of the Dunk & Egg novellas. Well, the first one is basically just The Tourney.

    Smaller scale GoT basically, but very reminiscent in many ways of early season GoT.
     
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    On a tangential note....

    My wife and I have been watching Coach off and on the past half year.

    There have been about five episodes where they have showed the fictitious Minnesota State Screamin' Eagles football games. And they are effing first rate. It's got to be real. [Edit: it is. All footage is from the 1993 Minnesota v Wisconsin game. Got a lot of mileage from that one game...]

    Also, the show has the very best cameo I've seen.

    Jerry van Dyke plays an assistant coach. It only takes about five seconds of watching the show to realize that, yes, this is Dick van Dyke's brother. Anyway, in the show, van Dyke plays a guy with no family. His father ran off when he was 10 and his mother died when he was 18. He gets into geneology and finds a family reunion of van Damme's and coach forces him to go. He's nervous, he won't know anyone, and he wonders "whether there is anyone there who will even look like me?" He repeats this line a couple of times, and then as they enter the reunion, who should walk across the frame, but Dick van Dyke? Doesn't say a word because he would of course own the rest of episode, but he just walks coolly by. First rate.
     
  9. Ismitje

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    At University of Idaho, it's Bill Fagerbakke who's the star of "Coach." The stage at Hartung Theater on campus is named for him. Here's a nice profile of how he got into acting at UI.

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    I hadn't watched any Marvel TV shows since Secret invasion, which was terrible.

    I decided to give Wonder Man a chance and to my surprise it is actually very enjoyable. So far I have seen the first three episodes.

    We follow struggling Hollywood actor Simon Williams, a man who has been in Tinseltown for a decade but hasn't made it big yet. Not for a lack of trying or insufficient talent. He just hasn't had his big break yet and he cannot help but getting in his own way at times. A point he proves when he gets fired from American Horror Story for needlessly delaying the shooting of what should be a simple scene.
    Only Simon has a secret: he is actually a super-powered individual. A fact that should it become public knowledge would ruin his career.
    Trevor Slattery meanwhile has returned to civilian life and his acting career after spending some time in prison for pretending to be the supervillain The Mandarin (events that occur in the movie Iron Man 3). When Trevor gets tasked with befriending and observing Simon in exchange for not being sent back to prison, a strange, unlikely and rather lovely bromance between the older and younger thespian emerges. They go to screenings of Midnight Cowboy together, quote Shakespeare to each other, help each other shoot audition tapes, ... This is one of those rare Marvel shows that finds the superhero aspect of its characters its least interesting trait. And it works all the better for it. Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is good as Simon, and he has great chemistry with Sir Ben Kingsley. But it is Kingsley (now 82 years old) as Trevor Slattery who really steals this entire show.
    One other fun little aspect is that the Hollywood setting allows for cameos from real-life actors, appearing as themselves. Some of them pretty great and funny. The best one is in episode two, though I won't spoil who it is here.

     
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    i am watching Department q.

    Love it so far.
     
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    Might give it a go after your comprehensive description which makes it sound interesting. :)

    I may also watch this but only coz I trust you :(
     
  13. xtomx

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    Thoroughly enjoyed it.

    There is no way they would allow an unvetted Akram Salim to be part of the "team," but I liked the character.

    Leah Byrne was all sorts of adorable as plucking DC Rose Dickerson.
     
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    Three more episodes of Wonder Man, still holding up great. This one might stick the landing.
    Episode four was a wonderful little standalone story/mini-movie.
    Episode six, the audition, was absolutely hilarious.

    Sir Ben Kingsley effortlessly owns every scene he is in.

    One thing I considered about watching this as well as the newest episode of A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is that both shows also benefit from their breezy thirty minute per episode runtime.
    I hope Ira Parker and HBO resist the fans clamoring for longer episodes. The fact that these things are lean and have next to no fat on them is part of the appeal of the experience.
     
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    It occurs to me in all the foofaraw around whether Bad Bunny is a "big enough star to do the Super Bowl" that it has been increasingly true for several Little League World Series now that he is the 12 year old's favorite artist-- according to about 80% of them this most recent instance.

    Which also seems to bode well for a bilingual future for the US and for baseball...
     
  16. spejic

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    You think this is new? Don't make me link "Rico Suave". Because you know I will link "Rico Suave".
     
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    We watched the first episode a while back and I decided it was too heavy for me to continue with. The trailer seemed to play up him being quirky while the episode was dark by comparison. Maybe the tone shifts a bit? Or more of the same?

    Looked great, just worried about my spirit in trying times. :)
     
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    Finished Wonder Man, loved it from start to finish. Though I am not sure they can do a second season and if they do, it will have to be very different from what they did in season one.

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    If this is the last we see of this pair, I tip my hat to them and buy them a couple of virgin Bloody Mary's.
     
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    Yeah, that was good. It needed a couple of people with decent acting chops and they were both great.
     
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    Really enjoyed season 2 of Fallout and I'm looking forward to season 3.

    Enjoying A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms as well. Agree on the 30ish minute run time making it clip along at a great pace.

    Season 2 of Hijack is a big step up from season 1.

    Also, here's the pitch meeting for the final season of Stranger Things that mocks all the stupid stuff they did.

     
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    Episode four of A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms once again showed that the "gathering the team" trope perfected by Kurosawa in Seven Samurai is one of the most indestructible story devices. Though I wished that they spent a little bit more time on it, half the team more or less just showed up.
    I cannot recall such a sequence that I did not enjoy, even in movies I otherwise did not like. Which is amazing for such an old story concept. Oldest sort of version I can think of is in Rhodius' Argonautica, which is a little under 2300 years old. I'm sure people more well versed in literature can probably think of even older examples.
     
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    Watched: "Spartacus: The House of Ashur" which finished up this week. We watched the first four episodes before new Christmas, a the middle three in January and then watched the last three last night.

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    Ashur (Nick Tarabay from the original Spartacus show) a Syrian who turned on Spartacus in the first incarnation of the show is raised from the dead by Lucy Lawless (who was also dead, but this show was not made for historical, or even logical, accuracy) and given the House of Batiatus by Marcus Crassus in gratitude of betraying Spartacus.

    Essentially, it is an alternate time line and Ashur wakes up as head of the House of Batiatus, complete with incredibly hot partner Hilara (Jamaica Vaughan) and her equally hot servant/friend/lover Messia (Ivana Baquero). He apparently killed Spartacus in this alternative time line, as well.

    Nobody seems to be concerned that the has taken over the ludus, except that is "a Syrian" and not a Roman. I guess the alternate time line thing works. He runs the ludus with the help of his (mostly) trusty Doctore, Korris (Graham McTavish, who is contractually obligated to be in all historical series on Starz, I think).

    Political intrigue abounds as Ashur tries to navigate both the games and political life in Capua. He is a supporter of Crassus, the rival of Pompey (who appears later in the show). At times, he is either taken under the wing or despised by Gabinius, a Roman Senator (and Crassus' rival in Capua) and defacto head of Capua. Gabinius lives with his wife, Cossutia (Claudia Black) and their hot daughter, Viridia (India Shaw-Smith), who's first husband was apparently killed by Spartacus. Upon meeting Ashur, she thanks Ashur for killing Spartacus (again, this is an alternative time line from the first series, where Ashur was killed at Mt. Vesuvius by Naevia).

    As much as he tries, it is clear that he can never be an equal in society and he is ridiculed regularly by just about everyone in high society of Capua, except for the young widow Viridia, who is quickly smitten with him, for no apparent reason. He saves Cossutia and Viridia from certain death at the hands of some marauding Cilician pirates (or are they?). Of course, he is smitten with her, for every apparent reason. She is young, beautiful, well mannered, a member of the richest and one of the most powerful families in Capua. She is also incredibly nice and, really, the only pleasant character in the show. She is, basically, perfect in every way. Seriously, she is presented as flawless at everything.

    If this is an alternative time line and Ashur has been running the Ludus for time, it is hard to believe that he had not met Gambinius and family previously. Gambinius runs the games, so it would be strange if they had never met in the years since the House of Batiatus fell and since Spartacus' uprising occurred and he was killed. Again, logic is not really a high point of the series. He is only offered a position in the games after saving Cossutia and Viridia.

    Ashur's rival is Proculus, conveniently head of the House of Proculus. Ashur and Proculus battle throughout the series in a battle with wits, money (Proculus has it, Ashur does not), murder plots, and in the ring. Proculus is a smug little snot, but has some powerful friends (possibly including Gambinius and Cossutia) and powerful gladiators.

    The coliseum had been destroyed by Spartacus and the rebels, so the games take place in a very, very small arena. Ashur takes a highly unusual approach in the ring, introducing Achillia (Tenika Davis), a female "nubian" warrior as his new Champion. He nicknames her "The Goddess of Death" and the nickname proves appropriate. Of course, the "brotherhood" of gladiators do not take very kindly to this interloper, especially little weasel Tarcon, son of former champion Celadus.

    The plots, such as they are, appear to be less incoherent and more interesting than the original Spartacus. Political intrigue abounds, as Julius Caesar and his incredibly hot wife, Cornelia (Jaime Slater) are major characters, with Cornelia as the more prominent character. Pompey pops up with pomp and circumstances and some very bad behaviour. There are many subplots (the relationship between Korris and the very rich Opiter is pretty poignant) and murder plots, double crosses, etc.

    Well, plenty of full frontal nudity (male and female), but less than the previous Spartacus shows from a decade ago. Plenty of softcore level sex occurs and some of the most stomach turning, but highly innovative, ways to kill people in the ring imaginable. A couple of truly mind boggling violent deaths happen in the arena.

    If you want to see how ancient absolutely, positively was NOT back in the day, but want to see a blood soaked, boob and penis filled horror show, you could do worse than Spartacus: House of Ashur.
     
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    Definitely some odd decisions

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    The militarisation of the Upside Down is one of the strangest things they did IMO.

    In previous seasons it was always a scary place with danger. Then suddenly in this season they carry out routine patrols there. Lost most of the atmosphere IMO

    Especially seeing early on in S5 a convoy is wiped out by demo dogs, but then the military seems not bothered by that?
     
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    Raymun Fossoway erasure! He's known Dunk for all of two days and agrees to be insta-knighted and potentially fight to the death for him in a Trial of the Seven. Hall of Fame tier bro.

    Very much enjoyed A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, Ira Parker understands better than anyone who has been in charge of any GRRM adaptations what we all found so great and endearing about the early seasons of GoT.
     
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    Finally starting season 3 of The Diplomat and episode 1 is a near perfect way to capture the chaos of the ending of season 2 while seeding the ideas for the rest of the season. I thought season 1 was only okay, and really wasn't sure if I'd keep up with it, but they've really created an intriguing and well fleshed out world.
     
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