Some actual, you know, stuff from Iraq: lefties please ignore

Is there any way to decline positive rep?

 

According to my Chucklometer logs, I was joking at a rate of about 77,31%

 

You must've really been bummed during the Clinton years.

 

Beauchamp being investigated, while fact checking their articles is SO HARD and tiring, TNR is taking a week off.

And, no one at FOB Falcon remembers any half melted face lady.

 

Beaucham's story has now completely unraveled... http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2007/08/018108.php

 

Sure it was bad. But it was a minnow and right now we are dealing with a whale. The kind of whale that seriously undermines the US Constitution, checks and balances, and separation of power. That is, serious problems a little more far reaching than whatever Clinton did with that cigar and lied about afterwards.

 

An actual news item I heard driving into work this morning (IIRC):

I know that last sentence is spot on.

Yes, that's a tragedy, but what does it have to do with the attempted attack in Afghanistan? Am I to assume there were no american casualties in the Afghan attack?

And then they wonder why we "think" that the MSM is biased left and that they're rooting for defeat.

 

Really? That bad? Can you give me concrete examples of each of these?

 

I see your talking points but please explain to me in detail how Bush is undermining the US Constitution. Then explain in the same breath, how the Fairness doctrine, banning certain words and gun control does not.

 

You really think that you can have a socratic dialog with someone making claims about Bush undermining the constitution and such?

Sheesh, you've seen that stuff enough times, you can probably write his cliche' answer yourself.

 

This thread illustrates how abysmally uninformed legal debates in popular culture (including this thread) tend to be. To take just your second example, there's no constitutional issue because these "word bans" are all advisory. Read the article you linked to:

They don't offend the First Amendment any more than a parent telling his kid "watch your language' does. Whether they're a good or silly idea from a policy perspective is a separate issue, but they're certainly not constitutionally objectionable.

 

Silly me. And I thought liberals were against dictating morality. So there’s no recourse. Sounds like a good use of taxpayer dollars.

Hey, let’s not stop with these three words. What about other four-letter words that are also degrading and offensive?

 

Not silly, just uninformed. Don't make claims about constitutional law when you don't know what you're talking about.

We probably agree about the wisdom of these advisory word bans. I think they're pretty useless and not exactly in the American spirit of free and open dialogue (an apolitical principle). But that doesn't make them unconstitutional.

However, I feel less strongly than you because all of these word-bans strike me as fairly trivial and harmless. Do we really think anyone is going to stop using obscenity because of a few demonstrations and legislative resolutions? If anything, they just increase the forbidden appeal of obscenity, much like music companies found that "Parental Advisory/Explicit Lyrics" labels increased the value of those CDs.

Nor, it should be said, is this moralism the exclusive province of the left. Conservatives have long backed their own PC language-control policies, both legally enforceable and thus possibly constitutionally suspect (flag burning bans, FCC fines for obscenity), and informal (pundits who decry the decay of morality in popular culture--often using obscene rap lyrics as an example, just like the "liberals" who passed the resolution you linked to).

 

Yeah, I know.

(anger rising)Bush lied people died...
(face reddening)Patriot Act...
(fists shaking)Plame outed...
(bouncing on seat)Attorney firing...
(ears steaming)Subpoena ignoring...
(screaming to heavens)D-O-M-E-S-T-I-C W-I-R-E-T-A-P-P-I-NNNN-GGGG!!!!!!

 

You forgot about:

(pointing finger) library records...


*after patriot act, before Plame*

 

And the most pernicious of them, monitoring book store sales so that Archer has to pay cash for his terrorist manuals.