Socialism, is America ready?

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Is it time for Democrats to embrace socialism?

  1. Yes, capitalism has failed us

    12 vote(s)
    70.6%
  2. No, it would be nice if a comeback was possible

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Also a non-answer.
     
  2. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    It was Gen X that voted for Trump with the biggest margins last election.
     
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  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Yeah, but it was like an ironic vote...or whatever, nevermind
     
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  4. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Whatever ... :oops:
     
  5. soccernutter

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    The socialist Kathy Hochul is considering a socialist tax policy.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ne...ising-corporate-taxes-source-says-2025-11-14/

    New York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering increasing corporate taxes to close a potential budget shortfall amid federal cuts, but that no decision has been made, a source familiar with the matter said on Friday.

    "The state is on strong financial footing today but much of the budget outcome at the start of next year is going to be largely dependent on what the federal government does and we're watching that closely and trying to plan accordingly," the source said.
     
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  6. russ

    russ Member+

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    She's trying to avoid getting primaried.Theres nothing benevolent about it.
     
  7. Yoshou

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    #457 Yoshou, Nov 17, 2025
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    So.. Bezos got his paper to put out a hit piece on Seattle's incoming DSA mayor.

    https://archive.is/YPuFl#selection-347.0-347.332/

    It's quite hilarious, really.

    The first attack is on the fact that Wilson is a Seattle resident that is struggling to afford to live in the city, therefore, every change she has proposed isn't to help Seattle residents, rather, it is to benefit herself.

    The second attack on Wilson is that she will make the city less safe and less business friendly because the city is already a petri-dish of failed progressive policies that her predecessors implemented.

    As pointed out by random people on Bluesky, it seems to be the pattern of those in power that because they broke the city/state/country, you can't possibly trust this other group of people to fix the problem.
     
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  8. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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  9. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    You haven't yet? They have under 100k subscribers left. Not a lot of people reading it any more.
     
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  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    The biggest problem is lack of alternatives. The other local paper I get has a worse editorial section the paper being owned by a Sinclair executive.
     
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  11. soccernutter

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    I did a while ago, and not don't even go to their website for a free article. I'm borderline unsubbing from Post Reports which I listen to via a 3rd party.
     
  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    isn't one of your options owned by the Moonies? Or did Sinclair buy the Washington Times.
     
  13. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    Hah Hah. I don't even consider that an alternative. I'm speaking of the Annapolis paper The Capital Gazette. Briefly famous after a gunman killed 5 employees in their office.
     
  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Used to be the term "going postal" Now it's more like "going grammar school"
    Not an improvement
     
  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Good. That’s how politics are supposed to work.
     
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  16. chaski

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    Bezos doesn’t need to ask the Editorial Board to do an editorial.
    They are quite capable of figuring out on their own what will please him.
     
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  17. ceezmad

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    Typical median voter. (Democrat version)

    What do we want? we want socialism!

    How do we want it? By the party to moving more towards the center.




     
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  18. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    They've never lived under a government that truly cares for basic needs so they have no frame of reference
     
  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Democratic Socialism for the win!

    How do you feel about our current Trumpy authoritarian kleptocracy?

    Democrats: 99.999999% against

    Republicans: Is a kleptocracy good or bad?
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    You are terrible at interpreting numbers. Just misleading as hell.
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bill Kristol was expressing support for aspects of Democratic Socialism on this weeks Bulwark

    He says it's necessary given where things have landed. He also wants Dems to have more centrist candidates like Mikie Sherill and Spanberger. He even said if he lived in NYC he would have been one of the jews who voted for Mamdani over sex pest.

    When he explained it, I felt he was simply expressing simple, mainstream views which are fairly obviously correct

    Anyone claiming this is big S socialism is talking nonsense.
     
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  22. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    But republicans call it Socialism so therefore it is and is bad! Or so we've been told the past couple months.
     
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  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    Mike Madrid has had some good commentary about why the supposed Latino realignment was wrongheaded. In his opinion they did not become realigned, but de-aligned. They did not become more republican or more right wing, but more economically populist.

    So it actually makes sense that they want policies oriented on the working class but not socialism
     
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  24. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    That's like saying they want water but not h2o
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    I think it makes sense from the modern day voters' POV.

    Both dems and MAGA are promoting populist economics - now of course Trump is mostly lying about his - but he did in fact promise working class manufacturing jobs, tax free tips, great healthcare, cheap energy, low prices etc

    It seems voters want the pro-working class policies, but don't seem to understand it as "progressive" nor do they want far right stuff

    I think you see this on healthcare. Voters want affordable healthcare. But that doesn't mean they all want state run healthcare
     
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