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  1. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't she used to brag about ********ing married guys?
     
  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Just some unfunny racism from one of America's top failsons

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  3. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The cognitive disconnect so many self-satisfied GOP voters maintain in order to pretend they don't know precisely the sort of people they are elevating is really something.
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your coded racism needs a better code.
     
  5. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    It's the equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig.

    You'll notice how the ads are targeted at non-Christians to evangelize them because Jesus was so understanding and awesome. The ads are not targeting Christians to change their behavior and be more like Jesus.

    The conservative evangelicals funding it don't understand the real problem most of the targeted people have with Christianity is the blatant hypocrisy of conservative Christians who do the opposite of what Jesus taught.
     
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  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know the post of line you quoted?

    Your response proved me right. :D
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s not the specifics of what kazuma wrote. It’s that he had a negative reaction to the ad at all. It’s like being against ice cream 0r rainbows or puppies.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was not my take at all. I mean, one of the images was someone comforting a woman outside of some kind of pregnancy center. That’s precisely one of the criticisms of the pro life movement, that they only care about the fetus, and only up until the moment of birth. Right? And that ad had at least one segment specifically about that.
     
  9. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Then you are not paying attention to who is putting up the money for the ads and why.

    Let's just ignore that the people funding these ads are also supporting the politicians who criminalize women who seek abortions because carrying the pregnancy to term could threaten their life. He gets us!


     
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  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Not only doing the opposite but acting all caring and humble in the process.
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    99.99% of the people who saw the ad just saw the ad. They didn’t do internet research the background.

    So I think the best way to judge the ads is by watching the ads and seeing what’s in them. This ain’t the auteur theory of movie criticism here.
     
  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    We'll blow you & the clinic up, but the more "Christian" among us might wash your feet too. So, let's all get along and let bygones be bygones.

    The whole commercial is a trainwreck but it figures it gives you some folk mass kumbaya warm & fuzzies, superdave.
     
  13. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Because the purpose of ads is definitely not to try to convince you to buy something (that you probably don't really need). :rolleyes:
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still proving my point for me! :eek:;):whistling:
     
  15. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, presumably the latter is what happens in churches on Sunday, or in their bible studies.

    Of course, different churches teach different things, it depends on which church you attend.
     
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  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the main themes of one ad was to treat your neighbors better. And your interpretation of that is that’s not something people don’t need. Further, earlier you (I think it was you) said the ad is targeted at non Christians. Is that really what you thought of the Neighbors sections?
     
  17. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    If that were indeed the case, then they wouldn't need these PR ads.
     
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  18. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Who is funding the ads?

    Why are they funding the ads?

    One of us used to be an evangelical Christian and knows how they operate.
     
  19. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If you are saying that Christians acting according to Christ's spirit would be a much more effective (not to mention cost effective) way to spread Christ's message, then I agree.
     
  20. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    You're winning this! :thumbsup:
     
  21. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    I'd settle for them simply following Jesus's teachings as written in the Gospels.
     
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You’re not talking about the content of the ads. That’s my point.
     
  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like centering a whole ad around foot washing? Like that?
     
  24. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That's a good starting point, but to me it's important also to capture the spirit conveyed by the idea of Christ, as reflected in the Gospels, because the Gospels, like the rest of the Bible, are subject to interpretation, and also carry some cultural biases. So I think we need some discernment, if we want to be true to the Christ's important teachings.
     
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    How can the content be separated from the purpose of the communication?

    This is like greenwashing propaganda at the end of the day.
     

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