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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Nah, no hate. He's showed he gets results and is playing the NIL/transfer portal game to a tee. I need to see more Power 5 results before he's crowned as Saban II
     
  2. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    You have been here too long not to know that BS posters and people in general were saying that 5-10 years ago. And well before that too.
     
  4. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He seems to be one of those guys whose looks improve somewhat with age. He's still not exactly handsome, but looks a lot less goofy here than when he was younger.

    Also, it helps that he's tall.
     
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  5. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    And the quality today definitely exceeds the quality 5-10 years ago.
     
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  6. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I know it is an anecdote, and not really applicable to overall standards, but RSL probably has only 2-3guys who would start over the players on the great team we had a decade ago.
     
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  7. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Highlights on youtube.



    France wearing red, which is unusual.
     
  8. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Is there any real evidence of that?

    But anyway, the discussion was more about good players choosing MLS over a top UEFA league during the best years of their career than about overall league quality (which is really difficult to prove one way or the other).
     
  9. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Payrolls, national team players (not just Caribbean nations), the eye-test, etc. Having this conversation with someone who doesn't watch MLS is pointless. You simply don't know what you are talking about.
     
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  10. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Improving the quality on the pitch is something of a band-aid on a bullet wound anyhow, as long as you have playoffs. I keep reading the complaints about who hasn't won the league in this amount of time, and I keep thinking, "Geez, IF that's such an issue, then everybody else step it up and look for an owner who cares enough to invest in the roster". I mean, I get it, already. American sports have always been organized to penalize greatness during the regular season by adding a tournament at the end which determines the winner of the whole competition.

    It would have been nice to get away from the American sports obsession with equality/equity between teams for w while, but I guess it's not gonna happen.
     
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  11. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Y'all had the league's top overall scorer Wondo back then, and some other serious talent, as MLS goes, anyway.
     
  12. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    No we didn't.
     
  13. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    I'm not sure this is quite the argument you think it is.
     
  14. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    My bad. I was confusing you with Quakes for some reason. I know where Wondo played, brain fart was misreading your post...
     
  15. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It wasn't, but not for the reason you think it wasn't
     
  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I wasn't discussing what you are now discussing.
     
  17. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    RSL lucked out back in 2008/2009 by going around and recruiting a bunch of "forgotten" US internationals that weren't getting call ups. Lagerway did a great job identifying and signing these guys, along with nabbing a few overlooked internationals (Javier Morales and Álvaro Saborío being the most important, maybe Jamison Olave too). There is so much more competition these days, that those finds are more difficult to come by, and definitely much more expensive.
     
  18. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Wow. Lagerwey has done good deeds for TWO clubs in the past. We have him now, and he remade us over the Transfer window.
     
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  19. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And it’s still true. You’re comparing it to leagues that have been around multiple decades featuring clubs that grew organically in countries where it was the most popular sport. MLS is a prefab league trying to squeeze its way in to a sporting landscape where the old guard was originally hostile and is now, with a few exceptions, largely indifferent. It was always going to be a challenge for any league to succeed in this country long term.
     
  20. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Not sure about MLS but has the USMNT made any progress since '02? :whistling:
     
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  21. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    Sabo rep.

    He recently came out of retirement (at 41 :eek:) to do a last hurrah with San Carlos FC, the club from his hometown. And, he scored just last weekend, becoming the oldest player to ever score in CR's first division :coffee:
     
  22. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least we qualify for the WC. Italy on the other hand... :p
     
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  23. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    What do you expect when they have a second tier league! :ninja:
     
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  24. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    The one where two CONCACAF sides squared off in the R16 because Portugal didn't show up for GS1 and basically fouled the Koreans in GS3 while down a man until they decided to just go forward?

    A R8 showing for a CONCACAF team is wonderful, but it doesn't mean that team is better than the ones that lost their R16 match in previous or later Cups.
     
  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    The best hooper ever by the banks of the ol' Raritan, Phil Sellers, has passed at 69. RIP

     
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