Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    You weren't asked.
    I wanted a blue map. You'll survive.
     
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  2. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Noted.

    I will now go laugh and point at Luckykusen getting found out for being lucky horseshoe m0therfvkcers, instead of actually good.


    Carry on.
     
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  3. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
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    There's no incentive for them to pull themselves up by the bootstraps as long as we keep throwing money in their direction.
     
  4. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much did you watch them this season? (Honest question)
     
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  5. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know you don’t mean it this way, but people who live in the South like I do look at this and see racism. That’s because those of us who live here know what demographic is dragging down the South. So for me, to me, this is victim blaming.

    Your post is the kind of post that a good journo on a Cletus safari SHOULD be investigating and explaining.
     
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  6. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I've seen a handful of their matches.

    To me, a great deal of their success is explained thusly:

    https://www.flashscore.com/news/soc...erkusen scored 15,beyond the 90th minute mark.


    YES, they have been good, and I'm mostly joking about them.. But 15 goals after minute 90? Fvkcing frosted lucky fvkcing charms.

    That simply can not and does not happen in a normal season. They are due to take a giant step backwards in their performance going forward as a club.
     
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  7. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    And I appreciate you not leaning on racism where it doesn't exist. [Actually, it has fvkc-all to do with race.]

    You see it as "victim blaming," and we in the industrious north hear GOP southern politicians guffaw at Chicago and at northern states that underwrite southern ones though our taxes. Take away blue states' donations to freeloader states, and Illinois and others could balance their state budgets in a matter of months.


    To Auria's earlier point, states like Alabama have godly pointyball teams, but they can't protect their citizens' rights, nor provide adequate economic opportunities, nor even keep their citizens alive as long as states with far sh!ttier pointyball teams. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm

    A lot of these states pay through the nose for their head fooseball coaches, but they can't fvkcing pay taxes. https://frontofficesports.com/who-are-highest-paid-college-football-coaches/



    TL/DR: Who gives a flying fvkc about your HS/college pointyball teams? Get your sh!t together, freeloader states.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Khan, IMO you are lumping together (most) white politicians with black politicians in a weird form of bothsidesism. Those southern politicians that you’re mocking are always trying, often successfully, to oppress black citizens. I strongly believe you’re underrating the racial political divide, and it still comes across as victim blaming.
     
  9. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh I'm sure they're due to revert to the mean. But what I saw of them this season was pretty cool--they were riding a wave of confidence, belief, and just the right amount of swag.
     
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  10. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    And yet, I have not once mentioned whites, blacks, or any other group. Because I give zero sh!ts about which group from which freeloader state is happy to take from us.

    Just that a lot of freeloader states happen to be red ones, and southern ones, who don't know how to act, who can't get their sh!t together, while making Nick fvkcing saban their highest-paid state employee.

    M0therfvkcers down there always have their hand out for each and every flood, storm, or natural disaster, but they tried blocking funding for Superstorm Sandy. IOW, they'll take, while trying to fvkc over the states that underwrite them.
     
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  11. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I agree. They're fun to watch, and they are good.

    I suppose that Xabi Alonso being a madrista turd is irritating, at the same time that Xavi is incompetent.
     
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  12. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honest question--I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you saying that Blacks in the South are "dragging down" the economy of the region because of their overall lower socio-economic status?

    And a large part of that is due to the mostly white, mostly R politicians who enact policies that perpetuate that. And also the whole low/no taxes mantra that's been the Republican dogma for generations. The states with higher taxes generally are going to have better social services, and that helps people a lot more than having extra heavy-duty handles on your bootstraps so you can pull yourself up.
     
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  13. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The issue is that quite often in southern states, that sort of rhetoric can be used to target the economically worst-off, who JUST SO HAPPEN to be Black.

    In many states, the money for the football (or sometimes basketball coach) who is the highest-paid state employee actually comes from trustees.

    Now HERE I fully agree with you. The hypocrisy of Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis taking Federal disaster relief money while cosplaying as wannabe secessionists is truly grating.
     
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  14. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You’re from Illinois, right?

    https://www.espn.com/college-footba...inois-signs-bret-bielema-new-6-year-deal-2028

    A lot of anti MLS posts at big soccer attack the league for doing things everyone does. Those posters are too cool for school posers who don’t know things.

    I get that you typically don’t make serious posts here, so I’m writing this for the benefit of the audience.

    At least Nick ********ing Saban was arguably the GOAT. What the ******** is Illinois paying Bielema for?
     
  15. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    From the industrious and Blue North, we see it as up here WE PAY, down there, they take.

    I'm sure you're correct.

    It doesn't make it any more palatable to see sh!thole taker states do this, from our perspective.


    It would just be better for them to just take your handouts, and shut their holes. Then, when something happens in a Blue state/northern state, and they need handouts, similarly shut their holes.
     
  16. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s exactly what I’m saying. But I’m also saying that the framework you wrote above is primarily how the folks here see things. When a southerner hears that cliche about tax donor states, conservatives think “it ain’t our fault we got so many colored!” while moderates and liberals think, no shit Sherlock. That’s what you get with a half century of some progress comes after 350 years of severe oppression.
     
  17. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes
     
  18. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    #1468 Khan, May 23, 2024
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  19. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good communication strategy there.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  20. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Thanks.

    Now, get your sh!t together, freeloader states.
     
  21. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Fact check monitor reporting for duty

    https://www.si.com/college/2023/12/24/jim-harbaugh-michigan-football-125-million-contract-nfl-clause

    You’re embarrassing yourself now. Remember…facts first, THEN the conclusion. Facts, conclusion. Facts, conclusion.
     
  22. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
  23. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much does the article say he got paid for last year, and how much were they offering going forward?
     
  24. Khan

    Khan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    And who's the coach for the Chargers right now?

    [Here, I'll help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Harbaugh]


    That aside, arguing exceptions rather than the rule, even as you're using an inaccurate example [i.e. a guy who doesn't even work for ANY state any more] is a bit unbecoming.

    8 of the top 10 highest paid fooseball coaches come from red states. 7 of the top 10 come from southern states.
     
  25. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, no matter where I live, how how much I disagree with you, you always go back to the past. It is as if you are living in the 1980s.
     

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