Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

superdave · Jun 20, 2025

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Thought 1 - Because we want to continue sports monopolies. Yes.
Thought 2 - Because the NCAA has such a good and positive history of looking out for the athletes it governs.
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What the hell are you talking about?

I just stated a fact, namely, that if the NCAA were single entity (like MLS) one school couldn’t tamper with another school’s players. I just described things using the English language and my understanding of the meaning of English words.

You’re really on a hair trigger today sport. Relax.

Deadtigers · Jun 20, 2025

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School sues school for tampering with a football player.

If you’re a 29 year old fresh out of law school and want to get in on the ground floor of an exciting new field of law, well, there it is.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...consin-sues-miami-tampering-football-transfer
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Can we just agree to selling and buy players already. Is it too European an idea for Murica??

superdave · Jun 21, 2025

@argentine soccer fan when watching Boca, I’ve noticed a lot of women and even a good number of kids. Does that happen in Buenos Aires, or is it something their fans feel comfortable doing in Miami but not back home?

The flip side of that kind of passion is, it’s an extremely “male” form of passion. It’s fun for us to watch, but it’s exclusive toward women.

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Jun 22, 2025

Track nerd time. New Balance Nationals are at Franklin Field this weekend.

Union Catholic's Paige Sheppard is an amazing 15 yr old smashing all kinds of records. It's the same HS that Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone attended.

https://nj.milesplit.com/articles/378198/sheppard-wins-mile-breaks-nj-meet-national-soph-records

superdave · Jun 22, 2025

Johnny Boy says soccer will be the #1 sport in the US in 5 years maximum.

The reason?

“Because now I’m here.”

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/64...tino-fifa-fanatics-fest-promotion-relegation/

I can see now why Infantino and Trump get along.

Please bring back Sepp.

argentine soccer fan · Jun 22, 2025

superdave said: ↑

@argentine soccer fan when watching Boca, I’ve noticed a lot of women and even a good number of kids. Does that happen in Buenos Aires, or is it something their fans feel comfortable doing in Miami but not back home?

The flip side of that kind of passion is, it’s an extremely “male” form of passion. It’s fun for us to watch, but it’s exclusive toward women.
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Yes, if you go to La Bombonera and you sit in the platea, the atmosphere is pretty much like what you saw at the Club World Cup.

There are three basic types of seats at La Bombonera.

1) La Popular: Cheapest seats, located behind the goal, they are like bleachers and that is where the Barra Bravas (Hooligans) go, and the tough people. If you see women there they are probably under the protection of the barras or very tough individuals who can hold their own. It’s standing room only and you are pretty much jumping the whole time. I went to La Popular when I was young, but I wouldn't go there now, never mind take a woman or children.

2) La Platea: Those are seats similar to what you see in most stadiums in the US, they are very safe and you see women, children and families, just like in the US. It's true that there are more males who go than females, but you do see plenty of women and lots of kids. I used to go as a kid.

3) Palcos: The luxury boxes, where the rich people can watch from. Maradona had a palco at midfield, and used to attend every match. Riquelme also usually watches from his palco.

Getting a ticket to watch Boca is very difficult, because the socios (club members who pay a monthly fee) have priority and take all the tickets. There is a long waiting list to become socio, and people even pay to be adherentes (members on the waiting list). There are some tickets reserved for tourists that are sold at a premium, so if you wanted to go to la Bombonera you could probably get a package to Argentina that includes tickets in good locations, or you might be able to get them at top hotels in Buenos Aires.

As far as myself, I have friends who are socios and when I go to Argentina they lend me their credentials, so whenever I get to Argentina I go. The credentials have an ID picture of the member, but the people at the stadium are cool about letting people in who don't look like the person on the credentials, it's common practice for members to lend credentials to friends when they don't plan to go, my experience is that the security lets you in with a wink.

One thing about La Bombonera is that the stands are very steep, so even if you are at the top you are close to the pitch, and the acoustics are crazy. it gets very loud, it feels somewhat like when you are at a steep indoor arena, like the Warriors had when they played at Oracle in Oakland. (Chase Center in SF is also quite steep but somehow they don't have the same acoustics as in Oracle). And back to La Bombonera, when everybody is jumping the bleachers move and players say even the pitch moves a little. Thus, it is said that "la bombonera late", the bombonera "beats" (as in heartbeats). There is no other place like it.

InTheSun · Jun 22, 2025

argentine soccer fan said: ↑

Yes, if you go to La Bombonera and you sit in the platea, the atmosphere is pretty much like what you saw at the Club World Cup.

There are three basic types of seats at La Bombonera.

1) La Popular: Cheapest seats, located behind the goal, they are like bleachers and that is where the Barra Bravas (Hooligans) sit, and the tough people. If you see women there they are probably under the protection of the barras or very tough individuals who can hold their own. I went to La Popular when I was young, but I wouldn't go there now, never mind take a woman or children.

2) La Platea: Those are seats similar to what you see in most stadiums in the US, they are very safe and you see women, children and families, just like in the US. It's true that there are more males who go than females, but you do see plenty of women and lots of kids. I used to go as a kid.

3) Palcos: The luxury boxes, where the rich people can watch from. Maradona had a palco at midfield, and used to attend every match. Riquelme also usually watches from his palco.

Getting a ticket to watch Boca is very difficult, because the socios (club members who pay a monthly fee) have priority and take all the tickets. There is a long waiting list to become socio, and people even pay to be adherentes (members on the waiting list). There are some tickets reserved for tourists that are sold at a premium, so if you wanted to go to la Bombonera you could probably get a package to Argentina that includes tickets in good locations, or you might be able to get them at top hotels in Buenos Aires.

As far as myself, I have friends who are socios and when I go to Argentina they lend me their credentials, so whenever I get to Argentina I go. The credentials have an ID picture of the member, but the people at the stadium are cool about letting people in who don't look like the person on the credentials, it's common practice for members to lend credentials to friends when they don't plan to go, my experience is that the security lets you in with a wink.

One thing about La Bombonera is that the stands are very steep, so even if you are at the top you are close to the pitch, and the acoustics are crazy. it gets very loud, it feels somewhat like when you are at a steep indoor arena, like the Warriors had when they played at Oracle in Oakland. (Chase Center in SF is also quite steep but somehow they don't have the same acoustics as in Oracle). And back to La Bombonera, when everybody is jumping the bleachers move and players say even the pitch moves a little. Thus, it is said that "la bombonera late", the bombonera "beats" (as in heartbeats). There is no other place like it.
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Love inner city stadiums. Emelecs Capwell stadium In Guayaquil is a bit like this also. It was built right in our neighborhood of the Shipyards.

superdave · Jun 23, 2025

You could make the seats bounce at RFK. That was fun.

Pønch · Jun 23, 2025

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You could make the seats bounce at RFK. That was fun.
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Saprissa stadium has the "graderia de sol sur" (meaning unshaded south stands) that are right above the locker rooms and the fans jump in unison to make the whole thing shake like crazy.

Landon Donovan describes the experience from the times he played there with the US NT

soccernutter · Jun 23, 2025

superdave said: ↑

What the hell are you talking about?

I just stated a fact, namely, that if the NCAA were single entity (like MLS) one school couldn’t tamper with another school’s players. I just described things using the English language and my understanding of the meaning of English words.

You’re really on a hair trigger today sport. Relax.
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IIRC, you have been arguing for something like this for a while, and saying that college kids shouldn't be paid like they are. Apologies if I have confused you for somebody else.

I am strongly for allowing college kids to earn based on a team/school contract. I strongly object to single entity. I don't have an objection to salary caps (in some form), but how that might work with NIL is something that I really don't know how it would work.

superdave · Jun 23, 2025

Seattle is starting more home growns than PSG has Frenchmen

Q*bert Jones III · Jun 23, 2025

Why aren't Seattle playing any of their star players? Injuries?

I see Joao Paolo, Jordan Morris, and Pedro De La Vega all sitting on the bench, not to mention Kee-Hee, Yeimar, and Minoungou.

superdave · Jun 23, 2025

Q*bert Jones III said: ↑

Why aren't Seattle playing any of their star players? Injuries?

I see Joao Paolo, Jordan Morris, and Pedro De La Vega all sitting on the bench, not to mention Kee-Hee, Yeimar, and Minoungou.
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@Sounders78 can answer this better…I know JoMo is injured

roby · Jun 23, 2025

2nd half between Atletico and Butafogo started...good match!

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Jun 23, 2025

roby said: ↑

2nd half between Atletico and Butafogo started...good match!
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Ay yo - fuggedaboutit!

Sounders78 · Jun 23, 2025

Q*bert Jones III said: ↑

Why aren't Seattle playing any of their star players? Injuries?

I see Joao Paolo, Jordan Morris, and Pedro De La Vega all sitting on the bench, not to mention Kee-Hee, Yeimar, and Minoungou.
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Joao Paulo doesn't play much because he's older and slower

Jordan Morris hadn't played since April due to his 2nd hamstring injury this season. (He played a few minutes tonight).

Pedro doesn't play full 90s because his hammies are made of glass.

Kee Hee had an injury a week or two before the tournament.

Yeimar hasn't played because of a hamstring injury. Ragen also just came back from injury - we were down to our #5 cb just before the CWC started.

Minoungou always comes in late in the game to stir up trouble.

Paul Arreola is also out for the year.

roby · Jun 23, 2025

Sounders78 said: ↑

Joao Paulo doesn't play much because he's older and slower

Jordan Morris hadn't played since April due to his 2nd hamstring injury this season. (He played a few minutes tonight).

Pedro doesn't play full 90s because his hammies are made of glass.

Kee Hee had an injury a week or two before the tournament.

Yeimar hasn't played because of a hamstring injury. Ragen also just came back from injury - we were down to our #5 cb just before the CWC started.

Minoungou always comes in late in the game to stir up trouble.

Paul Arreola is also out for the year.
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Freddy Adu is/maybe only 36 yrs old and available!

soccernutter · Jun 23, 2025

roby said: ↑

Freddy Adu is/maybe only 36 yrs old and available!
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Lalas is unattached.

roby · Jun 23, 2025

soccernutter said: ↑

Lalas is unattached.
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In more ways than one!

Q*bert Jones III · Jun 23, 2025

Sounders78 said: ↑

Joao Paulo doesn't play much because he's older and slower

Jordan Morris hadn't played since April due to his 2nd hamstring injury this season. (He played a few minutes tonight).

Pedro doesn't play full 90s because his hammies are made of glass.

Kee Hee had an injury a week or two before the tournament.

Yeimar hasn't played because of a hamstring injury. Ragen also just came back from injury - we were down to our #5 cb just before the CWC started.

Minoungou always comes in late in the game to stir up trouble.

Paul Arreola is also out for the year.
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Have you considered not playing on that shitty astroturf? Just a thought.

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Jun 24, 2025

For skate/surf rats out there - dude pulls off kick flip at a wave pool

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKidP3CSPcc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

charlie15 · Jun 24, 2025

Minoungou met Dembele yesterday after the game...That was a moment.

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argentine soccer fan · Jun 24, 2025

Okay, we have to win by six goals and hope that Bayern and Benfica don't cynically play to a draw that benefits both of them. If they play it straight, Bayern should win.

I trust that Bayern will play for the win. I'm not sure that I trust our own scoring prowess. But we can only hope.

Dr. Wankler · Jun 24, 2025

argentine soccer fan said: ↑

. If they play it straight, Bayern should win.

I trust that Bayern will play for the win. . .
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Given that they hung double digits on a team of part-time professionals, I think it’s safe that they’ll play it straight.

Though as I typed this, it occurred to me that having the opportunity to coast in this game might be why they spent considerably more effort than they needed to against the Kiwi side.

argentine soccer fan · Jun 24, 2025

Dr. Wankler said: ↑

Given that they hung double digits on a team of part-time professionals, I think it’s safe that they’ll play it straight.

Though as I typed this, it occurred to me that having the opportunity to coast in this game might be why they spent considerably more effort than they needed to against the Kiwi side.
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I don't think they want to put down Boca or help Benfica, but they might think it's in their own best interest to rest some of their players, since they are already in the quarters. But whatever, Boca has to try to score any way they can and not worry about what the Europeans do.

It looks like Cavani might be ready to play, they say he was practicing, so even though he's coming back from injury and out of rythm, he just might be good for a couple of goals.