Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if he had Neymar on the back of the jersey, that would make sense.

    My son wore his Argentina Messi jersey for Halloween once when he was about that age, so around 15 years ago.
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last night I saw a kid in a Brazil jersey, and an Argie jersey with a pinned piece of paper saying Messi, and a Peru (!) shirt. I’m pretty sure the last one is a family that lives here; my daughter’s BFF from high school is Peruvian and she has cousins here.
     
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  3. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, but how did he change the rules? What were the DP rules like before Beckham? (Yes, it’s a trap. This is where we separate grievance from knowledge.)

    After this we can litigate hoe they changed the rules for Miami.
     
  6. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We know what was done, we also know why. The question is, and has always been, how favoring larger media markets has created the unfair playing field.

    Why make a rule change for the Galaxy or Miami but you do not allow Columbus to buy down the contract of a player to add another DP?
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What was the rule change that “benefitted” the Galaxy? If you know what was done, why are you dodging the question?

    Cuz there was a rule change made that benefited them but at this point I feel like you don’t know what it was.
     
  8. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was a fan of this league from before the first game was played.

    Take your bullshit elsewhere.
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Florida State was undefeated in the regular season last year and won the conference title.

    They are currently 1-7 and losing. I can’t remember a reversal like this, ever. Maybe if I looked up the 1998-99 Chicago Bulls, or the Cavs one of the times LeBron left. But that’s basketball, a game with 5 starters. Football has 22 starters.

    Just an unreal, historic “achievement.”
     
  11. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Today, and only today, I am a UNC fan.

    Now I gotta go take a shower.
     
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  12. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    What difference is investing going to make if you're prevented from investing in the way that Miami (was) invested (in)? You can't invest yourselves into a contenda if one franchise is being selected to turn into a superclub to get eyes on screens.

    Miami decided to earn the league just that much more money and tanked G2 against us last night.

    The point of investing in the roster is to put yourself level with anyone else in the league talentwise. If you're in La Liga and you're not investing like Madrid and Barca, you're a deadbeat and you don't deserve to win anything. But here, it's different. You'd be investing in MLS-level talent (the only talent the non-Inter clubs will be allowed to pursue) and you'd still be having to hope for an upset because a bunch of aging sons of bitches from UEFA decided they weren't rich enough and had to go pick on players from a lesser league instead of retiring.

    and the way the "fans" treat Inter's visits. Messi got booed and cursed in Madrid- that's what should happen here. Instead, it's a bunch of folks showing up at a stadium for the first time because Messi's here. This country deserves Trump.
     
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  13. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    NObody should be going to watch these games. A footy league where the owners are preventing themselves from spending is nothing but a horrible, hot dogs and apple pie American sham of the REAL game, which is about spending to get talent.
     
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  14. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Please note: Dave’s position is an outlier here.

    And even if someone agrees with him, nobody cares enough to chip in and defend his position.
     
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  15. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It's a position? I kinda just wrote it off as typical dave and moved on without giving it much thought.

    When your offline self starts to creep into your online posting, your offline self needs to be morally sound. That's an issue for dave.

    stanger's post is accurate and well-phrased.
     
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  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All I see is another poster who can’t say how Miami is cheating.
     
  17. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

    .
    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The argument seems to be less that Miami is cheating (breaking the rules), than that they have conspired with MLS to tweak/rewrite the rules in their favor. There's no cheating in Calvinball.
     
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  18. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Players of the caliber Alba, Busquets and Suarez are reminder of when NyCfc started and they had Pirlo, Lampard and Villa. But adding Messi to deal is crazy because the rest of squad is a bridge too far
    The have 4 DPs and these are DPs of the highest caliber not some guy like Vanzier, like Red Bull have. I think NYRB had Henry and BWP that was it and their 3rd DP was nobody of that caliber. I mean BWP came here a nobody so he doesn't count like the Barca 4.
     
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  19. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Like Josef Martinez. Exactly.
     
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  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unless this is about the new DP policy of young DPs being a separate category, what major rules has the league changed? That policy encourages signing young stars, so it’s hard to see how that helps Inter get the Barca gang back together.
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :whistling::whistling:
     
  22. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I was in Japan last week and I saw two kids with an Argentina Messi shirt in Tokyo and one in Osaka. They appeared to be locals. And he doesn't even play in the J-League!
     
  23. Ha, I see that mls is the place to be for a schemer like me, turning dials and moving levers to get what I want:devilish:
     
  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Alba has declined a lot. He was a bench player for Barca already well over 2 years ago, and probably would have been one even before that if his successor wasn't 17 y/o.

    But yeah.... the other 3 Barca guys have declined very slowly.
     
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