Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    It seems almost inevitable that closed leagues - that lack the separate incentive of avoiding relegation - end up with oversized playoffs that severely diminish the regular season.
     
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  2. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best Indian I ever remembering having was in Edinburgh.
     
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  3. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  4. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    By definition, those are "brit" cuisines, are they?
     
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  5. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know. That's why I asked you for your definition.
     
  6. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I mean, those cuisines you cited are available in lots of places, not just the UK.
     
  7. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We went to a really amazing Italian restaurant in Edinburgh.
     
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  8. That's funny.

    Dutch FC Eindhoven has been "elected" by youtube channel HITC Seven as the most boring club in the world.
    So over a hundred thousand people (overwhelmingly foreigners) take a look at it to be bored.:ROFLMAO:
     
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  9. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like that channel.
    And he does a lot of tongue-in-cheek stuff.
     
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  10. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    This. It gives more teams "something to play for". American sports fans are not mature enough to handle decades of failure and still support a club in suitable numbers for a top flight institution. That's why the shit teams get high draft picks in American sports, so their fans don't abandon the team for greener pastures. I personally have some acquaintances who own faded, shrunk beyond fitting, dusty Bulls paraphernalia from the 90s. It's disgusting. We see it as entertainment.
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Nah, it just changes which games are unimportant. In a closed league, most teams would be out of contention for winning the league or getting relegated by September 1. Same thing in baseball. The White Sox wrapped up relegation a long time ago. The teams who played meaningful games recently (Mets, Braves, Dbacks) would have been playing out the string instead.

    in most European leagues, most years, 3/4 of the teams are playing out the string with a month to go. If it weren’t for qualifying for other competitions (play in European competitions) our system would be better in terms of the meaningfulness of the regular season.

    People who make your argument never get that if it weren’t for the fight for fourth in England, the fight for 2nd or 3rd in other leagues, those leagues would be awash in meaningless games. PSV had locked up the Dutch league by, what, January 1 last year? Basically, that was half a season of meaningless games. That never happens here.

    And even then, the teams fighting to avoid relegation are never going to win anything except promotion after they get relegated. This idea that relegation fights matter to neutrals doesn’t make sense if you think about it with an open mind.
     
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  12. Nope, you're wrong.
    PSV didnot secure the title until matchday 31. So even a match against relegation clubs are important, as you have to win them to stay ahead:
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    As Louis van Gaal learned with AZ(against Excelsior) and fdBoer with Ajax (against de Graafschap) on the last day you trip over molehills, not over mountains and lost the sure looking title in the dying minutes of the league.
     
  13. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    They are now, if the Brits have any sense...
     
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  14. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I have had some fabulous meals in England. The lamb is fantastic, the sausage in a pork pie is the best non-chorizo sausage out there, and five years after I was last there, I can still remember a pork roast i had. Clotted cream in coffee is amazing (only way I can stomach the stuff) and sticky toffee pudding has overtaken cheese cake as my favorite non chocolate dessert. My wife thinks English brussel sprouts are better than anywhere in the world, while my mom thinks the same about parsnips.

    I'm not really sure American cuisine is any better.
     
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  15. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oooh, love some sticky toffee.
     
  16. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I think the Brits should get an honorable mention for Shepard's Pie and Toads in The Hole! :)
     
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  17. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Toad - singular. Just like it’s offside - singular :p
     
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  18. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    One sausage for a family of 5 doesn't cut it! :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Roby's American. We do portions differently over here.
     
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The "indian" you get in the UK - while frequently excellent tends to be the famous styles e.g tandoori, vindaloo etc. Ditto Chinese, Malaysian etc

    Whereas if you are say in Singapore/Malaysia, you can get like the traditional banana leaf indian and other styles, lots of 'chinese' styles, malay, and then thai as well - all way better than the UK IMO.

    The Thai food i had first time in Bangkok was significantly different to what is called Thai in the west. Which is then disappointing to eat outside of Thailand for the rest of your life lol. Japan has a similar effect.

    One other observation - there is a lot of really crappy Turkish food around, including in Istanbul. The best Turkish I ever had was actually in london off the Kingsland Road.
     
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  21. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The gastro pub/cafe scene was always good there. I miss that about london
     
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  22. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  23. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
  24. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    #3974 M, Oct 2, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2024
    Huh? Multiple instances of being offside makes it a plural. I would use a plural in that heading too as a singular makes no sense. Just as a list of leading goal scorers would likely say “Goals” and never say “Goal”.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, nothing wrong with the food options in British cities. My main complaint is that you have to force feed yourself dinner at 5:30pm. If you go to a restaurant for a dinner at a normal time you'll likely feel rushed as the chefs and servers just want you to leave so they can close up and go home.
     
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