Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    that started a streak of 20 straight losing seasons, corresponding to the 20 years I lived in the Pittsburgh area.

    Phillies had 8 straight losing seasons starting when we moved here . . . Well, they were 81-81 one season. Alas, that streak has reversed itself.
     
  2. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Stay out of my neighborhood!
     
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  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Few did see it. They should really just give up on this big international push they're doing. The NFL is just too different, it will never be anything other than a niche sport anywhere else.
     
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  4. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    F3 final race of this season.

     
  5. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It's a difficult sport to understand, if you don't grow up with it. I think it would take much more than the occasional exhibition game to grow some roots in places in which it's not being played.

    I can say from personal experience that the constant stops in play can be very annoying for somebody newly introduced to the sport. But over time, the game grows on you, or at least it grew on me.

    It's more spectator-friendly than Rugby, (which was my point of comparison), as the forward pass and receiver-friendly rules makes it a much more wide open game, in spite of all the stoppages. And about those stoppages, once you figure out the rules and the point of the game they become less annoying. I started seeing Gridiron as some sort of cerebral chess-like game with the pieces being human beings, and not just any human beings but some of the top athletes in the world, some of the biggest, strongest, quickest, fastest, most accurate MFers you'll ever see.

    Add to this a significant amount of controlled (well, mostly controlled) violence, and it's one hell of a sport to watch.
     
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  6. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The deeply sanitized modern game bears little relation to the group MMA match that was gridiron for many years.Until the early 2000s,the violence was the selling point for many fans.
     
  7. The problem NFL influence has on USA soccer is the habit to coach players to the hilt in instructing what to do.
    Feyenoord Academy has had American academies coming over for a week, 2 weeks to have those kids train under our guidance.
    Iirc an academy called St Louis gallagher or something like that where over here and a boy was asked what difference he noted. He said, (when a goal was conceded or a dangerous situation occurred, can't remember exactly) when the coach called him to the sideline and he expected to get instructions about it. Instead the coach asked him what he himself thought went wrong and then what he thought to do about it.
    In other words he was challenged to think on the pitch, not only act on instructions given.
     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Nah

    Great win over the Aussies!
     
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  9. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, that was unbelievable. Australia is not what they used to be, but 67 points!

    I found that it's hard to get somebody who hasn't grown up with the game to appreciate it as a spectator sport. I think rugby 7s is more watcher friendly, but for those of us who grew up with rugby union it cannot possibly compare.
     
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  10. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Getting ready for Winter Olympics '24....

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  11. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    <laughs in Charles XII>
     
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  12. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  13. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    To Al-Hilal? Is anyone watching this club, Neymar or not?

    It's like Messi playing in Miami (I'd be surprised if the Saudi league had even the popularity MLS has)- most of the other club's supporters have already conceded them the titles while he's here. I'll go thru the motions of watching the games I can watch until he's retired and the league is fair again. Waiting him out, so to speak.
     
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  14. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Messi is out injured, and has only played about half of Miami’s games this year. They are still really good without him.
     
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  15. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nobody is watching the league, let alone the club.
     
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  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, I am not new to it. Trust me, it doesn't grow on you in the long run. Life is too short to put up with the constant stoppages, especially when you know they are all unnecessary (because there are already stoppages between each play, and there are 1,047,748 substitutions per match)..

    Ever been to a pub when there are 7 NFL matches being shown at once? Terrible vibe.
     
  17. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just saw the pictures of the Miami Dolphins WR Tyrteek being detained, handcuffed and laying on the ground right outside the Miami stadium. He was driving to the stadium when we has stopped by police. Disturbing to say the least.
    Hill said he has "no idea" why officers placed him in handcuffs; he said he was not disrespectful and did not use profanity toward the officers.
    He eventually was released after some Miami Dolphins officials intervened. As he said, " What if I wasn't Tyreek Hill? "
     
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  18. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yep. Even if he'd done something wrong, cops will do this to just about anyone darker than a brown paper bag.
     
  19. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He has no idea? I guess he has to say that, but I have an idea of why a black man was handcuffed by police.
     
  20. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well, yeah. It's not just him. They've loaded the team enough to win even without Messi. It's just a shame. Even if they get upset on the playoffs, it's just a horrible way to treat the other teams in this league.
     
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  21. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Go Lions! That is all.

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  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You guys are my hope this year to dethrone the Chiefs in the two teams make it to the SB.
    I am tired of the Kansas City dynasty now...lol
     
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  23. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    If the Lions win it all, y'all are gonna see a party that'll put everyone to shame.
     
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  24. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am I the only who has questions marks of Deion Sanders coaching abilities? That dude seems to be all talk.....
     
  25. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I've been questioning it since he was getting shoved down our throats the last couple years.
     
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