Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you asked (okay, no one asked) about why badminton was a varsity sport where I grew up in Orange County. It's a very interesting talk of inclusion. In the late 1970s, our district and several others began receiving significant numbers of students arriving as refugees from Southeast Asia. As with an earlier comment about how sports are not part of the collegiate experience outside the US, neither are sports (or virtually any other extracurricular activity) part of many high school experiences outside the US. So school districts were faced with an influx if large populations of non-English speakers with no older students to guide them (like happened a few years later with refugees from Central America - there were people there already to help acclimatize) and with no tradition of engaging in a school.

    Areas on many campuses called (in the decidedly un-PC way of the late 70s and early 80s) "Little Saigon" emerged where the newcomers would congregate.

    School district officials hit on adding badminton as a varsity sport to be added as a way to integrate the SEA populations. Even if badminton was uncool, you wore the school colors, could be proud to be part of the team and the school, and participated in things like school assemblies where non-athletes cheered for you. You won awards and wore letterman jackets. You integrated.

    And it worked. Oldest siblings typically played no sports, second and third kids played badminton and then tennis and some soccer, fourth siblings and/ore the second generation played football and swam and golfed and whatever they wanted just like everyone else in the school. Eventually badminton was "just" an odd duck, no longer performing the same function, and was dropped during budget cuts.

    Side bonus: good lord were the girls from Korea and Vietnam and Laos beautiful, and I got to hang out with them for months on end. :) Of course the lack of full integration at the time meant they weren't allowed to date Americans, so it didn't go so well for me (twice broken up with at the insistence of parents).
     
  2. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    A well coached, well drilled team with enough talent to compete some of the time. The downside is that the bench was not deep enough and they spend the best part of 3 matches running after the ball, so we ended up making 4 subs due to injury. If Mayra had scored the third…. Who knows…

    Hopefully we will get more players for the next World Cup.
     
    soccernutter repped this.
  3. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Your men and women keep knocking on the door. You're close.
     
  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yet so far:cry:
     
    rslfanboy and Deadtigers repped this.
  5. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same issue as WC, only a year ago. 3 years is a long time to improve.
     
    dapip repped this.
  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3031 charlie15, Aug 5, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2024
    The 100 M Men's final was truly insane last night. Djoko win vs Alcaraz was one for the ages as well.

    I was at the SDF yesterday morning for qualifiers and had a chance to see two champions among others, Julien Alfred from St Lucia & Femke Bol of the Netherlands. Alfred is also running the 200 M and won her qualifier easily. She is the favorite, imo, on the 200 M. Superb athlete.
    Bol is going to win the 400 M hurdles, she is head and shoulders above the competition.

    PHOTO-2024-08-04-11-02-26.jpg

    PHOTO-2024-08-04-15-39-18.jpg
     

    Attached Files:

  7.  
  8. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    charlie15 repped this.
  9. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if he asked the Austrian swimmer if they saw a kangaroo out in the wild....
     
    charlie15, soccernutter and Auriaprottu repped this.
  10. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    When I was in college, my sophomore roommate took Badminton for his PE class. He thought it would be like that backyard tap-the-birdie game from picnics, etc. He was the only white guy in the class, most of which was Malaysian. He came back two hours later with his shirt soaking wet and stuck to his skin. He initially said he was going to drop the class because it was actually hard. But he stuck with it and actually got into the game. A couple years later I was in the gymnasium checking the intramural schedule, and there was his picture with an Asian guy: doubles runner up!

    Speaking of Olympic sports that Americans don't follow. I knocked off my PE requirement with the Team Handball class. An assistant football coach was a retired Army guy who spent most of his career in Europe with NATO. He got into the game and bought equipment and taught the course for the department. It was popular enough that we had an intramural league with 6-10 teams every year I was there: we'd get 10-12 games every year. Alas, my senior year was the last time that happened because, alas, the football team was terrible and they cleaned house. Not sure how long the IM league lasted after that.
     
  11. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    P GUH76hwXkAAxGkt.jpg

    GUHs8V4XkAABINw.jpg

    Paris 1878, Claude Monet

    Paris 2024, Olympic Games.
     
    Mike03, russ, charlie15 and 10 others repped this.
  12. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All within 0.12 of each other!

    Thomas has the best form, as I recall, coming into the Olys.

    I think you are forgetting Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone. So far this season, she has been head and shoulders above everybody else, time-wise. Though she runs far fewer races than others, specifically Bol, as well. With that said, Bol seems to be in peak form, and it seems she will challenge SML more than previously.

    And I really wish the Olys would adjust their scheduling so they both could run the 400h and 400m.
     
  13. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Dr. Wankler and soccernutter repped this.
  14. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, and on the badminton thing, my family has a lot of athletes and is quite competitive. Or was. So while we never had badminton team in HS (surprisingly, for the same demographic reason Ismje mentioned), there were a lot who played after school (we had a net that the AD let them use). One day after track practice (I think), I asked if I could try some, thinking I would be pretty good. Man, I was sorry compared to them. I thought I knew how to drop a shot over the net. Well, yeah, I could, but compared them, that birdie just hung in the air. I was just sad.
     
    Ismitje and Dr. Wankler repped this.
  15. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And from the article, a link to a study, which is interesting and confirms using testoserone (alone) as a marker is misleading, at best, and false at most. And also the bold.

    https://clindiabetesendo.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40842-017-0050-3

    The results confirmed many suppositions such as basketball players being tall, weightlifters short and cross-country skiers light. The hormone profiles were more surprising with remarkably low testosterone and free T3 (tri-iodothyronine) in male powerlifters and high oestradiol, SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) and prolactin in male track and field athletes. Low testosterone concentrations were seen 25.4% of male elite competitors in 12 of the 15 sports and high testosterone concentrations in 4.8% of female elite athletes in 3 of the 8 sports tested. Interpretation of the results is more difficult; some of the differences between sports are at least partially due to differences in age of the athletes but the apparent differences between sports remain significant after adjusting for age. The prevalence of ‘hyperandrogenism’ (as defined by the IAAF (International Association of Athletics Federations) and IOC (International Olympic Committee)) amongst this cohort of 231 elite female athletes was the highest so far recorded and the very high prevalence of ‘hypoandrogenism’ in elite male athletes a new finding.
     
    Smurfquake and Val1 repped this.
  16. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I'm on the road to Morocco! :whistling:
     
  17. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Never bet against Spain.
     
    Ismitje, dapip and charlie15 repped this.
  18. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    There are so many talented Colombian players in the Argentine and the Brazilian league, and I don't understand why European teams don't go after them as they do with Argentines, Brazilians and Uruguayans. Colombia is on the way up, but somebody needs to notify the scouts.
     
    M, dapip, Deadtigers and 2 others repped this.
  19. Intramural like indoor?
    I watch women indoor handball occasionally and boy that's not a sport for p*ssies. These ladies are tough as nails. I'm pretty sure I don't last more than 5 minutes against them.
     
  20. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'm speaking American. In American universities, there are varsity sports, in which teams representing the college/university plays other teams from other colleges. "Intramural" is for students at one particular university. So my college would have a half dozen or more teams playing in a league. My team was a bunch of guys from my dormitory. Other teams represented other dorms, fraternities, student groups (Black Students Association, Newman Center {Catholic students} and the like). Intramural sports are generally pretty informal and recreational.
     
    russ, Deadtigers and feyenoordsoccerfan repped this.
  21. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    rslfanboy, M, Auriaprottu and 5 others repped this.
  22. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Simone is as amazing on and off the competition.
     
    rslfanboy, Ismitje, Auriaprottu and 3 others repped this.
  23. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just landed in NY and saw this result. Seems to have been a spectacular match. Will try to watch it later tonight.

     
  24. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Oh yeah....wait til my favorite Egypt finishes off France and then demolishes the guys from the Plaines where the rain mainly falls! :whistling:
     
    charlie15 repped this.
  25. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #3050 babaorum, Aug 5, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2024
    Yes, it was a great match. The Germans were extremely good. the French team is accustomed to turning around desperate situations. That makes them entertaining to watch, especially with a wizard like Earvin Ngapeth in their ranks.
     
    Dr. Wankler and Deadtigers repped this.

Share This Page