Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

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  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shelly Ann Fraser Price is out of the 100 M race this evening. That may be the curtain for this amazing champion. No
     
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  2. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I loved Teddy's face when the draw was made... A lion waiting for his meal...
     
  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably. I think she has even said so, though I may be thinking of somebody else.

    It would have been great to see her in the final, but based on her form this year, I'm not sure she would even have medaled.
     
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  4. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Sport is a cruel mistress and some people don't get the ending they deserve. I mean there two Aussie women, I forget their names but they had been with the team like a decade making all kinds of sacrifices and were in their final game. It seemed certain they would beat Canada and make the final but instead they got upset by Canada and heartbreak in the final seconds by the USA.

    Shelly Ann is a great and will be legend in Jamaica. She deserves nothing but our respect and her flowers.
     
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  5. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good news then, the World Flying Disc Federation is a member of the Association for IOC Recognized International Sports Federations, which is the group from which new sports get chosen. Interesting list of candidate sports which you can see here.

    I haven't heard scuttlebutt about the WFDF being ahead of other sports right now. But it's a good candidate based on the criteria for inclusion in a games. About a dozen years ago, one of my alums working in Beijing translated the bylaws for Ultimate into Mandarin to launch a club there.
     
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  6. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I saw that, and was actually wondering if it had some political meaning...
     
  7. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYP
     
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  8. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Julien Alfred from St Lucia just won the women 100 M. What a amazing story!
     
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  9. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Well yes of course. I was more speaking from a US media perspective. People don't realize that the reason the USA was in the wilderness for a decade was not for a lack of effort just that a generation of Jamaican runners had come through and changed the game. Bolt is global but there are a lot that were part of that generation that don't get the recognition they deserve.
     
  10. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well put. Self-blame after getting beat by better talent disrespects that talent.
     
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  11. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    My question with the mixed 4x400 is how do you decide the order? Cause I would end with a male if I had my choice.
     
  12. Obviously good you're not our coach:ROFLMAO:
     
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  13. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm gonna quibble slightly with this only because Bolt is that dynamic personality above being the GOAT in men's sprinting. Of course, it is also difficult for me to properly assess this as I'm in that world, and SFP has always been on my mind. I also knew that female Jamaican sprinters (100m and 200m) were so, so dominate for close to the last 15 years, and with Alfred and Ta Lou-Smith (who had a surprisingly poor final) and others, it seems that the wealth of talent is being spread around, which is exciting (for me, and for the sport more broadly).

    That said, it still looks to be Jamaica v. US in general, for the women's 100m at least.
     
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  14. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    think they have to go male/female/male/female

    However, in swimming you can choose your own order.
     
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  15. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on who is on your team, and where the relative strength is. The time difference between the males and female is significant, and I've seen races where it was a female who started and that seemed to hurt the team's overall. I've also see races where the male was put last, and just couldn't pull it out. I suppose there is a psychological aspect to why (speaking as somebody who ran anchor as a sophomore on the varsity 4x400 relay team).
     
  16. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was not aware. If that is the case, that is Olympics specific.
     
  17. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Trying to find a story that basically begins and ends with her, and can't. Same with most other Olympic stories. I guess I'll just watch the YT videos some time in the future.

    Nothing to do with not being high on Sha'carri Richardson, but it seems that every available article about anything Olympic starts with the winner and then quickly segues into something about whatever American was competing in the event. Some don't even give the gold medalist the respect of the headline. "Chance Carnegie DuPont IV takes Bronze for the USA in sailing; two Germans win gold, silver"

    Are we really so insular as a nation that we need every channel to cater to our outsized nationalism? The athlete her/himself deserves every bit of glory s/he can get, for working as an individual to make a team that was going to be loaded (by that I mean nationally, not necessarily for each event). But the overall feelgood medal count and focus on American athletes is like dancing in front of your TV while the USWNT beats Thailand 13-0 or some such rout.
     
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  18. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed that this is so frustrating. Some of it is around the nationalism of the Olympics. Rebecca Andrade, the silver medalist in the all-around female gymnastics competition, has a brilliant story. And she is legit 2nd, apparently. I only got her story from the BBC or Guardian or some place like that (correction, it was from NPR - https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-...-biles-rebeca-andrade-gymnastics-silver-medal). But NBC, specifically, is pathetic when it comes to non-US participants. I think we, here in this corner of BS, have long said their coverage of non-US athletes is shit.
     
  19. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Was hoping to see a France-Spain semi plus a Morocco-Egypt semi. Instead, both drew the Euro team and now both be playing for bronze, sadly.
     
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  20. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    Hook ‘em Horns!
     
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  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  22. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    What do you mean by "legit 2nd"? Was there some controversy?
    I can't stand to see arbitrarily judged sports sometimes, and the judge part of it is why.
    Longboarding made a huge mistake trying to stay all cool and pseudooutlaw while the Games took a totally subjective genre of skateboarding (that shit part where kids ride and destroy stair rails and park benches) and gave it Olympic status. At least they could have used proper bowl riding instead of encouraging more vandalism.

     
  23. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mrs. Ismitje and I watched a very nice feature on Andrade, on the main NBC broadcast.
     
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  24. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
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