Soccer, Sports and Politics - Part Deux

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    And I forgot to mention Mark Cavendish's 35th stage win... another great event on this year's Tour.
     
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  2. Is Girmay the first African to win one of the TdF jersey competitions?
    I can't remember another one, but that doesnot mean much.
     
  3. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Given he was the first African to win a stage, I think it's almost a guarantee.
     
  4. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I took a quick (not necessarily exhaustive) look through the list of winners of the various competitions, and did not see any winners from any African nation before this year. I thought there might have been one from South Africa within the last couple of decades, but there was not.
     
  5. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes he is.
     
  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was sure there was a South African rider who was a sprinter, maybe mid 1990s.
     
  7. Yeah, iirc there were two white South African riders, who won an "etappe".
     
  8. Wow, he's going to be a role model for alot of African talents.
     
  9. Chicago76

    Chicago76 Member+

    Jun 9, 2002
    Chris Froome arguably qualifies. Born and raised just outside of Nairobi. Secondary school in South Africa. Represented Kenya at points early in his career, but switched to the UK when he was established and strong enough to do so.
     
  10. I doubt Africans consider him one of them. Both parents Brits and they obviously raised him as Brits, considering the fact he felt more Brit than Kenian.
    But technically, being born in Africa, he is the first one.
     
  11. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Today is the day the USMNT thrashes Les Bloos in Marseille! :thumbsup:
     
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  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I suspect I'll spend more time following cricket than the Olympics, but . . . this cracked me up.

    https://archive.ph/SQ7Or
    Shoko Miyata, {The Japanese women's gymnastic} team’s captain, withdrew from the Games after an investigation by the country’s gymnastics board found she had violated its code of conduct.

    She was kicked off the team for drinking alcohol and smoking. It doesn't sound like she was smoking weed or crack.

    In any case, this sort of cracked me up because when I was in college, EVERYONE on the college's women's gymnastics team smoked. They were the only athletes sitting in the smoking section of the cafeteria. And they ate in the normal students' cafeteria because they wouldn't let them smoke in the athlete's cafeteria.
     
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  13. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Unrelated somewhat but the story reminds me. When I was 15 I spent all summer chain-smoking cigarettes with my friends, and when I showed up to my first soccer practice in the fall coach drove us hard and I tried to keep up until I almost fainted, I was sick as a dog. I got so sick that I quit smoking cold-turkey. For weeks the smell of a cigarette sickened me. When I was in college I never smoked even one cigarette.
     
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  14. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just realized that soccer, rugby and a couple of other sports have started today!! Great.
    Heading to Paris tomorrow evening for 10 days. Can't wait!
     
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  15. Chicago76

    Chicago76 Member+

    Jun 9, 2002
    Notions of nationality are complicated for sure. A lot of white and South Asian people in Kenya have a pretty complicated dual identity. To my knowledge, he was never a Kenyan citizen but being raised there, introduced to the sport there and he started his pro career formally representing Kenya. He definitely got a lot of love from them when he won the tour under the UK flag.




    He is starting a cycling academy to make the sport more accessible there, so I’d say he’s emotionally invested in the country/region:

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/fr...-in-kenya-find-tour-de-france-magic-in-2024/#

    Not too different than a lot of dual national discussion in soccer really.
     
  16. It's good to read he appreciates his years there by supporting talents development.
     
  17. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Not sure what happened but there was 17 minutes of stoppage time in the Argentina x Morocco match!?
     
  18. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Argentina needed a late equalizer and they gave them as much time as possible?
     
  19. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    #2570 BocaFan, Jul 24, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2024
    lol

    I notice now that they are adding big chunks of stoppage time consistently in all the games so far today. So, looks like they are counting stoppage time like how it was done at the 2022 WC (and then largely abandoned until now)

    Edit: Also, the late goal was VAR-d out. Finished 2-1.
     
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  20. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Quite the Olympic spirit shown at this game today. From players being cynical to fan behavior. I love football ... but it many ways, it truly is the worst sport ...
     
  21. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I am watching some Rugby 7 replays, it just reminds me that I have no clue about the rules.

    Like when do they know to turn over the ball on downs?
     
  22. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    If you're serious, rugby league has downs (6 of them, IIRC) while union and 7s do not. One of the most common ways a ball turns over, other than an "interception", is if there is a "knock-on" (someone touches the ball forward with their hands).
     
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  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did see an interception in the first score between Samoa and Australia.

    But every time a play ends in a tackle it looks like a fumble but only the team that had the ball is allowed to recover it.

    I am assuming your team keeps the ball unless the ball goes forward from the spot of the tackle.
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2575 ceezmad, Jul 24, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2024
    Ok, something else that I didn't know, in Rugby 7s, your extra points kick is from roughly the spot where you score the touchdown, so the more to the middle of the end zone you score, the easier the kick will be.
     

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