News: Soccer Bosses Want a $1 Billion Pan-American Tournament

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by TheFalseNine, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
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    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Very excite
     
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  3. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No big shock, it was massively successful and only a matter of time before the 2016 version of Copa America became an every four year thing that rivals the Euros. I think its great, plus I missed last years due to being on deployment and I hope this happens for selfish reasons.
     
  4. 21st Century Pele

    Apr 16, 2014
    If it's held in the US, it will do well. If they try to rotate it, the first time it's in Venezuela or Ecuador, it will be a huge financial loser.
     
  5. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it could be successful in the US, Canada, Mexico, Argentina or Brazil.
     
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  6. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Good. Let's just call it The Centenario. I don't care if it makes no sense. It's a good name, and it already has a little bit of branding currency.
     
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  7. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    They will hold it in the US.
     
  8. 21st Century Pele

    Apr 16, 2014
    US and Brazil yes. Mexico and Argentina probably. Canada maybe.
     
  9. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chile as well.
     
  10. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    I would go with US and Mexico definitely. Argentina and Canada, probably. Brazil, maybe.
     
  11. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    The other question is, why should we ever support it going to Brazil? They sent a B or C team that didn't take it seriously to our party. The sponsors were stuck advertising Neymar, who didn't attend. Even if it is played in other countries, I think we should bypass Brazil for the time being.
     
  12. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I suggest there will be very little chance Venezuela will host any international soccer competition in the foreseeable future.
     
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  13. PhillyandBCEagles

    Jul 9, 2012
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    In fairness they were hosting the Olympic tournament a few weeks later and Neymar prioritized that. I can't blame him for that.
     
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  14. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They sent their B team because Neymar and Co. were going to be playing in the Olympics at home just a few weeks later. Neymar was on record as wanting to play in the Copa but he wasn't allowed to because winning Olympic gold was more important.
     
  15. 21st Century Pele

    Apr 16, 2014
    Olympic soccer? Countries actually send their teams to play that? ;)
     
  16. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Well, they made their choice.
     
  17. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yes, this was a special situation. Olympic gold was the only men's title Brazil has never won and obviously playing at home presented a special opportunity. It has been a big focus of theirs for decades. Also, a gold in Brazil would take away some of the bitterness from the 2014 WC fiasco.
     
  18. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    http://globoesporte.globo.com/futeb...nario-eua-querem-nova-competicao-em-2020.html

    The CONMEBOL is divided on the subject. On the one hand, the South American directives are happy with the idea of an extra tournament: the 2016 edition left each federation with an extra $2.4 million USD. On the other, a new tournament in the United States would empower CONCACAF over South America --and would give the USA more control over the "FIFA world."


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    The last part I find interesting. There is a reasonable preoccupation that if the USA gains enough clout in the game, soccer itself will become "Americanized." Also, as noted in multiple media sources, soccer is the one global cultural phenomenon where the USA has been forced to take a back seat (because we've never been good enough).

    In everything else, movies, music, publishing, fashion, etc. the American influence has been massive. And, frankly, the rest of the planet wants to keep soccer as their safe space, to put it a certain way.
     
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  19. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By Americanized, they must mean 4 Quarters of Soccer and Cheerleaders and Running Penalties and Commercials Every 5 Seconds?

    And of course, the renaming of the World Cup to the Soccerball Cup?

    (All of the above is a joke and not meant to be taken seriously).
     
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  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Actually, that's exactly what is meant. There's already a proposal to divide the game in quarters:

    http://www.cbssports.com/soccer/new...oking-at-the-wild-proposed-fifa-rule-changes/

    - Replacing penalty kicks with eight-second run-ups (a la old MLS );
    - No offside;
    - Orange cards;
    - Four quarters.

    All that plus TV/computer aided replay & water breaks, already in place.

    Eventually it'd become like football, with many breaks to allow for many commercials.
     
  21. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    They need to relax a bit. Nobody is going to dominate world soccer.
     
  22. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That has nothing to do with America. The guy proposing that crap is from FIFA not MLS or anyway associated with us. Plus the penalty kick rule went away decades ago.
     
  23. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Singing "God Bless America(s)" between the 3rd and 4th quarters.
     
  24. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Well, the link goes more or less like this:

    USA = Money > Tradition.

    Hence, if USA has more influence, money will become more important. And changes to make the game more profitable would happen.

    Which begs the question, why is making more money bad, to begin with?

    I'm pretty much a traditionalist, but cannot explain rationally why. I just know that, like toddlers, I don't like change.
     
  25. 21st Century Pele

    Apr 16, 2014
    Umm, are we seriously going to debate whether or not there is a danger of money outweighing tradition at FIFA?
     
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