Soccer America: Fire to Finish Dead Last

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by HalaMadrid, Apr 4, 2003.

  1. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Chicago Fire
    Eastern Conference
    Final Standings Prediction

    Bryan Alvarez - 5th
    Scott French - 5th
    Paul Kennedy - 5th
    Will Kuhns - 5th
    Ridge Mahoney - 4th
    Mike Woitalla - 3rd

    Soccer America - 5th

    Weren't we picked last in 98 too?
     
  2. CrewToon

    CrewToon Member

    Jun 13, 1999
    Greenbrier Farm
    This is assuming one considers Soccer America a readable publication.
     
  3. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer America is not the only to pick Chicago last.
     
  4. feuerfex

    feuerfex Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Re: Re: Soccer America: Fire to Finish Dead Last

    And that somehow makes them more credible???
     
  5. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no, but don't be surprised if they DO finish last in the East.

    an underdog role probably is not a bad thing for such a young team anyway.
     
  6. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't see how anyone can pick DC United over Chicago. And I hate Chicago.
     
  7. RogerinIL

    RogerinIL New Member

    Feb 24, 1999
    So this season we officially become the underdog Chicago Fire. That puts all the pressure on our opponents.
     
  8. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the truth hurts.
    that's like having to pic LA to win the West...again.
     
  9. Fanaddict

    Fanaddict Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    streamwood IL USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer digest picked them for ninth with dc in the tenth spot.
    This is before a game has been played and before any allocation players are obtained.
     
  10. Peter Wilt

    Peter Wilt Member

    Jun 11, 1999
    Whitefish Bay, WI
    1998 SA MLS West. Conf. Predictions for Fire

    Not that i would keep any of this around or anything ;) - but, in SA's 1998 preview issue, this is how their editors predicted the Fire's first season:

    Pete Bailey: 6th
    Ridge Mahoney: 6th
    Dean Caparez: 6th
    Amparo Simon: 4th
    Duncan Irving: 3rd!!
    Poul Swain: 6th
    Paul Kennedy: 5th
    Mike Woitalla: 6th

    peter
     
  11. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    Fine, let them pick us for last place. That will simply make the two teams who don't make the play-offs that much more embarrassed when we go instead of them.
     
  12. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Allen Hopkins picked us to pinish 2nd.

    NOW I'm worried.
     
  13. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    I just want to repeat my words from a previous thread and echo the direct sentiment of Hala, and the indirect of PW by saying, we were the underdogs in '98.

    [​IMG]

    There's no need to fear! Underdog is here!
     
  14. Hattrix

    Hattrix Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Chicago
    "Thanks, Shoe-Shine Boy. You're humble and lovable."
     
  15. BillQ

    BillQ New Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago, IL
    Another reason why I don't subscribe to SA.
     
  16. BillQ

    BillQ New Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago, IL
    And I thought I was a packrat. :)
     
  17. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    I'm sure he's got that issue with those picks along with a letter saying, "we were wrong, we're sorry" signed by all of them framed and hanging on the wall in his office.
     
  18. Stevedm

    Stevedm Red Card

    Jan 19, 2000
    Chicago
    Re: 1998 SA MLS West. Conf. Predictions for Fire

    Wow! They sucked at predictions!
     
  19. quarterUltra

    quarterUltra Member

    Sep 10, 2000
    Stillwater, OK
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I second that emotion!
     
  20. JeffGMc

    JeffGMc Member

    Oct 14, 2000
    New York City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Re: Re: 1998 SA MLS West. Conf. Predictions for Fire

    They still do.
     
  21. helmzgk

    helmzgk New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    california
    Only be scared if Pele says you guys will finish first.
     
  22. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. theburden

    theburden Member

    Jul 11, 2002
    MDSC head brewer
    FINALLY


    from B.O.B's brother

     
  24. irishFS1921

    irishFS1921 New Member

    Aug 2, 2002
    WB05 Compound
    bob made two good points in that article.

    the first was that we wont be last.

    the second was that those frat boys at the crew game did look really pitiful.
     
  25. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its pretty reasonable to think the Fire might finish last in the east for these reasons.

    1) The fire were a deep team now they have no depth. Injuries will really really hurt.

    2) Beasley, Bocanegra, and Armas (?) could have a busy time with Confed Cup and Gold Cup. Those tournaments are going to have a bigger impact on Chicago than New England (Twellman? JMM? Ralston?).

    3) Missing Ante Razov for the first 3 games is going to hurt.

    4) Every other team in the east has a bigger potential improvement from last year to this year than the fire

    Columbus (Buddle a starter, Hejduk, the first american #10?)
    NE (JMM and better than their record last year)
    NY (Moreno, Pope, and a refocused Mathis?)
    DC (Olsen, Stewart, Dema, the Buglarian defender)
    Chicago (lost Wolff, Nowak, Dema, Stoitchkov and gained Faria)


    Just face the fact that Chicago looks to have the weakest roster they have ever had.

    However there are so many questions about NY, DC, NE, and Chicago that it will probably come down to the 5th finisher is just the one with the most injuries. I can't see Columbus finishing 5th this year though unless they have Chicago style mass injuries.

    I think more than Chicago being good their destiny might turn out to be determined by the fact that NE was mediocre last year and now they are mediocre with JMM, DCU don't have a finisher and el Diablo can't run the team (Earnie is good, but he has never lit up the Dutch league), and that NJ is relying on Moreno and Mathis and if they play like last year NJ is looking like they will watch the playoffs from home.

    I just don't see Chicago with the upside as the other teams nor the downside.
     

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