So you are reading what? v. 2016

Discussion in 'Books' started by Ismitje, Jan 1, 2016.

  1. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
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    one of his particular whipping boys has been france, he has a maniacal hatred of the country. whenever there's been a conflict between the two countries his bylines get a lot of play.

    putting it that way calls my objectivity into question but just go read the things he's written on france. even if you're not in a position to know that it's all patently untrue the gratuitous insults, faulty logic and the poor writing should be enough to discredit him in any eyes.
     
  2. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She's Sorry -- Fredrik Backman

    Fredrik Backman must have lost his father at an early age because this book, and his (far superior) debut novel, A Man Called Ove, both deal with lonely, isolated people who have lost the one person in their lives who can help them make sense of the world. In this case, it is an abnormally aware and prescient 7 year old named Elsa. She's freakishly self-aware for a 7 year old and the book would have been much stronger if Backman had just made her 13.

    Backman is a gifted writer and it's been fun to "discover" him, but this book is tedious and he would do well to find a strong editor. STAT! Here, Elsa has lost her almost-mythical grandmother who has been her best friend and who created the Land of Almost Awake as a way of helping Elsa not be afraid of the dark. What Elsa discovers in the course of the book is that Granny has populated the world from the real world neighbors who live in the small apartment that Granny owns and what Backman does best is create the A-Ha moment when you realize how all these people are connected and how they are manifested in the Land of Almost Awake. He does the same in A Man Called Ove, and that moment was one of the most powerful moments I've ever read. Backman's got a nice turn of phrase but the problem is he'll repeat the same sentence, which was powerful once, 20 times in the book, and that's just tedious. Eventually I just skipped his descriptions of the Land of Almost Awake.

    So, he's suffering from sophomore slump. But given that he's got a third book in three years already on the shelf, I don't know if he's going to take the time to become a better writer. And that would be sad.
     
  3. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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    The Book of Common Prayer: A Biography (2014) by Alan Jacobs: another from the Princeton University Press series, "Lives of Great Religious Books." Man, they played rough in England from the reign of Henry VIII on. More red shirts in this story than in the average Star Trek TOS episode, by far.
     
  4. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Read Wool by Hugh Howey on the plane ride to and from New York. Interesting dystopian novel about a future Earth where people live in underground silos 140 floors (or so) deep, and are tightly controlled. It started life as a self-published novella; this is the omnibus with the five novellas included.

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  5. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It'll be an entertaining comedy book.
     
  6. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
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    A Kim Jong-Il Production -- Paul Fischer

    So what's the first maxim we learn about books? Never judge a book by its cover? Well, I did that two years when this book came out. The cover is rather garish, the subtitle makes it sound like a true crime novel, and the author's translation explanation sounded like that of an undergrad. That was three strikes.

    But then I heard a piece on This American Life about how Choi Eun-Hee (Korea's greatest actress) and Shin Sang-Ok (probably Korea's greatest director) were kidnapped by Kim Jong-Il and forced to live in North Korea as happy husband and wife (they had been married at one point).

    This book is a fabulous read and even though I knew that Choi and Shin were able to escape it was still quite the page turner as I wanted to find out how.

    But more importantly, the book is quite revealing about the Hermit Kingdom and Kim Jong-Il, and Fischer, a movie producer, is just the guy to have done it. It turns out among the various appetites that Kim had, his first and foremost was a passion for film. He idolized Shin and had the fanboy experience going on with Choi and he was deeply aware of how awful North Korean film was. And that's the point of entry for Fischer.

    This was an awesome read, and I'm glad I gave it a second chance.
     
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  7. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    To be fair, Lucifer is the most interesting character of that entire stable in almost any work - he's the only one who has sinned, after all. The rest are, after all, without sin, in theory. Milton's Lucifer (despite relatively thin characterization in Paradise Lost itself) remains a fundamental western literary figure from which characters as diverse as Lermontov's Demon and Gaimain/Carey's Lucifer are spawned.

    A good one for sure.
     
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  8. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    And of course, Dostoevsky's Stavrogin...
     
  9. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    I see what you're doing here...............
     
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  10. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
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    Olympique Lyonnais
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    France
    rejecting the temptations of satan again? the grand inquisitor's not gonna like that yogi.
     
  11. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
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    Shopgirl -- Steve Martin

    Now this book, this one I should have stuck with just reading the cover. The front left flap, you know the flap with the teaser about the book opens with this paean to Steve Martin:

    One of our country's most acclaimed and beloved entertainers, Steve Martin is quickly becoming recognized as a "gorgeous writer capable of being at once melancholy and tart, achingly innocent and astonishing ironic" (Elle).

    Any book that starts with such a con job deserves to be ignored. At least this book was short. The book is spare, its chief virtue, and Martin possesses some ability to nail the passing observation: "When you work in the glove department at Neiman's, you are selling things nobody buys anymore."

    If one of the first maxims are acquainted with is Show, Don't Tell, well, Martin flunks this horribly as that is all he does, so for this aspiring writer, the book has some merit. There are only 3 1/2 characters in this book and they're all flat as a pancake. But as I said, at least this book was short.
     
  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Don't rule out his memoir, Born Standing Up, based on Shopgirl, which is and shall forever remain on the DNF list for me.

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    The Dead Sea Scrolls: A Biography by John Collins (2013), which is another very interesting entry in the "Lives of the Great Religios Books" series, and the ladt one to which I have non Inter-library loan access to.
     
  13. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Like Carey's Lucifer, I'm taking a break :p
     
  14. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    The Education of Henry Adams

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    Mont Saint Michel and Chartres is much better, but this one has its moments.
     
  15. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Dr. Wankler, a contrarian at times, would assert that The Education is a superior work in so far as it was a breakthrough in the genre of autobiography, though he would doubtlessly concur that Mont Saint Michel and Chartres is nevertheless an outstanding book. Though to be sure, Dr. Wankler would also argue that Esther has not aged well, and indeed, that calling Democracy a piece of shit is a grievous insult to feces the world over.
     
  16. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Nicephoras would say Dr. Wankler is a nerd who reads too much!

    Also Dostoyevsky.
     
  17. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If he's such a crap novelist, what difference does it make how we transcribe his name in English?

    :D
     
  18. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Oh, it doesn't at all Dr. Wankler, it doesn't at all :)
     
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  19. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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    Moon Country: Further Reports from Iceland by Simon Armitage and Glyn Maxwell. Two English poets travel to Iceland in the 90s, basically repeating a journey taken by W.H. Auden and Louis MacNeice in 1937 (which they reported in Letters From Iceland). Armitage and Maxwell are a lot funnier. Or maybe it's Iceland that's gotten funnier, hard to say.
     
  20. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
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    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Absalom, Absalom! - William Faulkner

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    "He was not bragging about something he had done; he was just telling a story about something a man named Thomas Sutpen had experienced, which would have been the same story if the man had no name at all, if it had been told about any man or no man over whiskey at night."
     
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  21. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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    Wisdom's Workshop: The Rise of the Modern University by James Axtell (2016). A pretty good summation of quite a bit of history going back to the early days of higher education in Europe when the great universities were gradually emerging. As with the book I read about the Book of Common Prayer, I was surprised that the job of Chancellor in the early years of Oxford and Cambridge could be fatal: Five guys were executed for pissing off the king in the last few decades of the 15th century. I'll probably give a pass to the last chapter on the contemporary multi-versity, but this book is pretty informative and reasonably entertaining, given the subject.
     
  22. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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    Not a bad book from a 20/21 year old who understands just how screwed up our education system is. He does a great job of showing where the current compulsory system came from, how it killed literacy and learning in the US, and how the current K-12 system we have is literally doubling down on doing the wrong things.
     
  23. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    An Autobiography – Anthony Trollope

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    "I do not think it probable that my name will remain among those who in the next century will be known as the writers of English prose fiction;—but if it does, that permanence of success will probably rest on the character of Plantagenet Palliser, Lady Glencora, and the Rev. Mr. Crawley."

    And Augustus Melmotte. ;)
     
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  24. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    yes, the way we live now is his best book, no doubt. but as characters go i'm awfully fond of miss dunstable.

    and then there's lucinda roanoke. my knees go all wobbly just thinking of her.
     
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  25. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Miss Dunstable - agreed :thumbsup:
    Lucinda Roanoke - not memorable to me, I had to look her up :oops:
     

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