Post-match: So what is next for the Democratic Party? (Post 2024)

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by ceezmad, Nov 6, 2024.

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Where does the party go after this?

  1. Does the party go right and try to find a new Bill Clinton

    58.6%
  2. Does the party go left to the Bernie Sanders wing

    41.4%
  1. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

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    #2426 Germerica, Jun 16, 2025
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    Mayor of Chicago announces race-based grants to those who can prove African ancestry, which should largely be met with favor by Chicago residents who voted for Johnson in the recent election.

    What percentage of ancestry remains to be seen (as I'm sure folks will be rushing to get their DNA tested), and these grants will likely be extended to those who immigrated to the US after the end of slavery.

    Don't see an issue with what cities decide to do with their tax revenue, but hopefully this is something the city can absorb and other services such as infrastructure and schools don't suffer as a result.
     
  2. superdave

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    https://publiccomment.blog/p/blue-cities-need-a-mutual-defensive-pact

    1. He says Trump is planning for civil war.
    2. He suggests Democratic mayors should start coordinating resistance.

    So when we talk about what’s next, we shouldn’t just look to Washington. In fact, we shouldn’t look there at all. It’s going to be governors and mayors etc.
     
  3. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    If it was just absence it wouldn't be as bad as this sort of thing...



    I mean, that is just embarrassing.
     
  4. ceezmad

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    My Governor has made it illegal for me to own an assault rifle.

    So in this 'civil war' blue states are voluntary trying to make sure we have our arms tied behind our backs if shit does go down.

    But hey, elections have consequences and blue state Democrats voted for this.
     
  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    A blog post on an opinion on why the hard left is against "Abundance"


    https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/progressives-take-their-best-shot
     
  6. rslfanboy

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    Jul 24, 2007
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    I'm definitely more on the YIMBY and abundance-style thinking. But our govt. doesn't directly build too many things anymore. We hire it out to the private sector, which often means we don't have a lot of expertise inside our government. We have to rely heavily on the private market for what we can and can't do, which also kind of hamstrings us on which projects we tackle.

    And then the private sector suffers because they are subject to the whims of whatever admin, Congress and political crony they encounter every 4 years or so.

    With stuff like broadband, a lot of what exists has been done haphazardly without a ton of coordination between companies, so there is a massive amount of legwork that needs to be done to figure out what we have where, and how best to move forward.

    There needs to be both, and we very likely were to heavily on the side of govt coming out of WW2 and The Depression, but it feels like we are wildly out of whack on the private side of things now. I'd like to see a much more balanced public/private partnership instead of just a silly and inefficient bidding process.
     
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  7. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
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    It's not clear to me why owning an assault rifle is seen as being prepared for civil war. There have been lots civil wars all over the world where the fighters did not have their own personal arsenals ready to go, so that doesn't seem to be a needed condition for success. At least not if the civil war in question is the traditional conflict of an irregular army going against a government's army.

    Now if we're talking about a bunch of Proud Boys going out to "hunt" liberals, or POCs, or LGBTQ folks then yes, having your own weaponry can make a big difference, but I wouldn't call that scenario a civil war. More like targeted terrorism or something like that.
     
  8. song219

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    Yep. If you are in or preparing for a civil war you buy arms from a dealer (like drugs if you have money there is an international gun dealer who is willing to sell to you). Even more important, you steal arms from your adversary.
     
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  9. ElNaranja

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    I guess you could call it that. Both times the Bundys rose up, during Katrina, Charlottesville, basically Portland the past decade fwiu...

    If people live in certain areas of the country, having an arsenal at hand will be essential if a gobag isn't an option.
     
  10. ceezmad

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    This is bullshit.

    Major cities and many states are Democrat run and a lot of the obstacles to build are created by Democrats.
     
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  11. ElNaranja

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    Porque no los dos.gif

    They are both to blame, though in different ways and to different degrees.

    The GQP is working to burn it all down and piss on the ashes. The Dems are tripping over their own noses trying to at least keep the status quo, if not improve things (different policies).
     
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  12. rslfanboy

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    There's the Dem aspect, but there's also the rich asshole aspect. In cities these often overlap.

    You can look at East Austin and see how its build out has been done very unfairly. You don't want to go about it that way either.
    In the suburbs of SLC, they keep building single family homes further away and installing lawns where the county has to keep building out roads, sewer, water, electricity, gas, etc... They are finally attempting to build more dense housing closer to main transportation routes, but that former no-rules policy has been a huge drain on established communities. Since the housing out there is way cheaper, they are building schools to accomodate all the kids and closing schools in more established communities.

    But I agree that Dems seem to pass laws trying to fix things which then create obstacles, sometimes contradictory and sometimes unintended, and refuse to course correct. It's stupid.
     
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  13. soccernutter

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    Not to mention, there are many parts to a resting force. Years ago, I was talking to a Black women I dated about a possible and pending civil war. I told her that I would move to the 'hood because that was who I was more comfortable with. Her response was that I should stay somewhere in the suburbs or similar as I could move between areas and pass intelligence.
     
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  14. ceezmad

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    This thread is about what Democrats can do, we can't change Republicans, but we can try to fix our fvck ups.

    I see a double NIMBY combination of rich liberals that want low density and what I call Anti- gentrification NIMBYs, that do not want new buildings in minority neighborhoods.

    Add some environmental regulations that can tie up development for years and we tend to have a shit show that keep cities in blue states from adding adequate amounts of housing.

    Let's not forget the woke socialist dummy's that don't believe in supply and demand and think rent control is smart policy, these fvckers are as stupid as Antivaxers IMO
     
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  15. Germerica

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    Look at what dumbass LA voters recently did with the mansion tax. The measure was sold to them by the same woke socialist dummies you are referring to.
     
  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    But WokeFascistLibSocialists at least in NJ push the state & municipalities to set aside a certain # of properties for affordable housing. If not, the Kushners & other FascistGlibertatrianCapitalistScum developers will condo-ize every open parcel.
     
  17. ceezmad

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    Link?
     
  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Think you'd fit in just fine in Tennessee, cheezy

    For much of his time wandering around the protest at the Bicentennial Mall, Millar was livestreaming, declaring on X that he was going to be "counter-protesting these commies."

    He shouted at protesters, “Commie scum! No f***ing commie, commie scum in America, motherf***er."


    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/n...t-had-long-fascination-with-nazis-mass-murder
     
  19. ceezmad

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  20. ceezmad

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  21. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    Uneducated non whites will probably continue to drift away from the Democrats as uneducated whites did.

    That will be a big problem.


     
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  22. Germerica

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    A course correction is needed. Democrats more and more are becoming viewed by the less well off (across race) as the party of the elite who are primarily focused on vanity progressive issues that don’t affect their lives (such as college loan forgiveness). The demographics of all these Elon and No Kings protests are skewed towards the white boomer demo and those people just aren’t very relatable to minority voters.

    I’m very curious to see how this all plays out in the next 10-15 years, as the boomer demographic is phased out and conservatives continue to have children that reach voting age. Heck Gavin Newsom isn’t even a conservative and his son is a huge fan of Charlie Kirk.
     
  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA

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