Post-match: So what is next for the Democratic Party? (Post 2024)

I'm not sure what he was trying to accomplish. Galvanized people against Trump? He chided everyone to protest peacefully. Not to be upset with the NG because Trump is ordering them to do illegal things. Not to fight against the Marines who should be used overseas, not against Americans. All high minded ideals and rhetoric that isn't going to calm any nerves, isn't going to inspire resistance, and instead will continue the erosion of trust in the Dems.

He does realize that he is one of the most powerful people on Earth, right? But his speech was full of platitudes, coastal elitism, and tut-tutting.

We're all doomed.

 

The faces of that party need to change.

 

Pretty sure Ken Martin just gave a tearful speech about how people are being too mean against incumbents and radical communists need to go. I think. Sometimes he sounds suspiciously like the Felon.

 

I get the criticism, but he’s talking to folks who aren’t paying attention. I think he should have gone a bit harder though. People want some fight right now.

 

Addressing people who aren't paying attention with that speech doesn't inspire them to help. It gives the impression all is ok. He should have talked about how Republicans want cops at every women's restroom and they'll inspect your genitals before going in. How national guard will be posted at every school, grocery store, government building asking for papers. Random checkpoints in the city checking for papers. If you're walking your dog and don't have papers, they'll snatch you up and put you into a dark basement with no food, water, anything. He should be regaling them of how ICE is busting up birthday parties, bringing military weaponry to schools, homes, places you shop at. Of how citizens have been detained and abused. And you're next if you don't join us.

That should have been the speech. That's merely speaking truth and informing those not paying attention.

 

I read this and had to share it.

Democrats don’t realize they’re in a content creation war with Trump.

We’ve all talked about how completely inept the Dems are at messaging, but I don’t think anyone has phrased it this way, that we’re AWOL at a content creation war.

 

This is crystallized it all. That's what really annoys me but with all the movie stars and producers that donate to the Democratic party you would think they'd be able to lower some of these guys into the DNC to help them learn how to complete set of content.

 

They never understood the power of the Breitbart Doctrine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Breitbart#Breitbart_Doctrine

Now they (and we) are paying the price.

 

I think people keep forgetting that Donald Trump has 40+ years of media exposure. Not to mention a lot of people project onto him.

If it was Stephen Miller running for the GOP it’s a different story.

 

In other words, if we don't embrace the people whose only regret is not that they voted to erase me from history and Sounders from existence, but that they/theirs were also targeted for some sort of mistreatment... we get to keep the culture we now have post 11/5.

I can't say I agree with the author Those people will vote for the candidate with the more sharply focused dehumanization, not the one who promises not to harm anyone.

Another thing the Right has managed to beat into a lot of people's heads is that the folks you see on the screen (Hollywood) are your enemies as much as the ones at the front of your classrooms. I don't know that the Dems can reverse mainstream Whites resistance to education or the arts at this point.

Do you remember all those commercials that Towson State University graduate and professional actor (and singer, and narrator) Mike Rowe did mocking a college degree and educational enrichment while wearing a hard hat? Rowe don't care enough about this shit to be significant, but my point is that the money men behind that video couldn't use the actual blue-collar examples among their own employees to sell their skilled labor jobs. They needed an arts professional to send the poors a message not to evolve for its own sake, because they can be paid well --perhaps even better-- and remain crass. Like getting a chef to talk about how convenience store sausages and pickled eggs are more than sufficient in providing proper nutrition...

 

Randi Weingarten is out at DNC, citing disagreements with Ken Martin in a resignation letter.

"I appear to be out of step with the leadership you are forging."

She had been on DNC since 2002.

Lee Saunders, the president of AFSCME, is also out at the DNC.

This amounts to the exit of two of the highest-profile union leaders aligned with the Democratic Party.

 

Well I meant that if you have Clooney, you can get his production people and make better social media content.

As for Rowe, he became a cult hero and kept his mouth shut and kept making money. The you don't need a degree people got what they wanted. Those hurt where the Appalachians but Rowe didn't mock them so he was all good.

 

I interpreted that line differently from you. I took it to mean that consciously or not, Trump’s tactics are perfectly aligned with “content” in terms of how “influencers” use that word. The Democrats are perfectly UNaligned with that kind of content.

Or misaligned. Disaligned? No.

 

In today's media environment, the major networks would talk incessantly about the way Hollywood and Madison Avenue are intertwined with liberalism while ignoring the rise of news sources that deliberately validate the biases of conservative watchers

Did he have to keep his mouth shut? I don't know his political views. I'm not sure anyone was fooled for real. One of the states he targeted is mine. There's a YT video he made for a concern called Build For or Build In Alabama. but they went out of their way to choose a state with a shitload of community colleges. It's not that it's difficult to attend college in this state. One of the few things George Wallace did right was to help install JCs in almost every corner of the state. If you can save a few thousand bucks getting the first two years of college out of the way, you can more easily afford the costs of the 4-year schools.

 

I think there was some Hollywood video that came out in favor of Democrats and against Trump, but it didn't have the intended effect, because there's a whole bunch of people who saw that video and interpreted it as coastal elites looking down on them.

In this "content creation" war, a video of people in LA looting a store is more effective than a clip of Jimmy Kimmel's late night show talking trash about Trump. Trump can tie the first video into his culture war, which is basically all he does, all the time, but the opposition thinks that the Daily Show is an effective counter to the culture war. We're not prepared for the actual content war.

 

I'll hold my hand up as this basically describing me, though I like to think I can provide more nuance and think (ok, hope) others agree in general.

I do think the DNC will always go harder and spend more money and effort and political capital to fight of anyone to their Left over anything else. Whether that is only just or very far or anyone in-between. Unfortunately the infrastructure of politics in the US currently makes it very hard to overcome their thumb on the scale (whether lightly or heavily). And we're in a situation where building from the ground up isn't viable (which is to say nothing of all the attempts by the GQP to infiltrate or for grifters in general).

I want more anti-Israel because they're doing bad things and we shouldn't be supporting anyone committing genocide. So that would include Saudi and anyone else. Plus the most pro Israel people here are the same fascists that got us where we are in the US.

As for anti-capitalism, well yeah. The way things are currently is making things worse and worse by the day. Guardrails are needed and the government, may society, should all be about the best for the people, not the rich and not companies.

 

The NYT ed board does not want the future of the Democratic party to include Zohran Mamdani.

 

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So what I think you're saying is that Dems need a.......Trump of the Left?

Someone who will force books, science, single payer HC, higher taxes on millionaires/billionaires, vaccines, men in women's sports, WOKE, deodorant, toothpaste, spices, etc. on unsuspecting Trumplandians? I dunno - seems like a tall order in today's divided climate.

 

You really need to separate yourself from NYT editorials so you don't become a Big Lib

No worries tho for our California Concern Troll Trumper. Cuomo will darken his face, say he hates Israel & Muslim him up in ads if he hasnt done so already.

 

He used chatgpt to come up with his policy. I don't think he's trying that hard and won't put the effort into that kind of attack ad.

 

What's next? Hopefully not this obnoxious douchebag:



https://bsky.app/profile/cooperlund.online/post/3lrqjmufamc27

 

I mean look at the way the guy moves, behaves. He's accustomed to being given whatever he wants, and also accustomed to making sure everybody knows it.