Post-match: So what is next for the Democratic Party? (Post 2024)

It is not that he platform,s them...he is a conspiracist himself not to mention he is not a very bright dude either.

 

Hey they're better than the alternative and have been my whole life. But as I institutionalists, they are for helping the people but that is as a consequence of keeping things moving. They didn't rush towards Civil Rights and what not. They had to be dragged. They did the right thing, yes, but not for itself, because they believed in it. They did it to keep their power and keep the machinery of government going.

In my lifetime an example would be gay rights. Even that they couldn't (or wouldn't in the more uncharitable viewing) lock that down.

 

Yep. There's a strong affinity between this and "a lot of people are saying," and in both cases the burden of proof is on sane media to call bullshit.

One day maybe we will again have sane media!

 

Nah. Trump just has a rabid fanbase that's willing to turn out if he's on the ballot. That, and Trump has a presence in American culture that maybe Obama, Clinton, and Reagan have that most politicians lack.

Any other GOP politician runs and we'd be talking about President Harris. This wasn't exactly a thumping like some think.

 

False. The word salad queen was an exceptionally horrible candidate (Dem primary voters confirmed this in 2020).

The only reason it was even as close as it was was because of Trump’s polarization among suburban voters in places like Georgia and Wisconsin. If Trump had declined to run and endorsed Rubio or someone similar, it would have been an even bigger blowout considering how disastrous Democrats were on border security and immigration.

 

Yeah Terry Gross is a great interviewer.

 

Terry Gross has been one of the best interviewers over the last several decades. Most anyone would compare unfavorably to her.

But Rogan doesn’t even try.

 

Go find the Jordan Klepper MAGA thing Comedy Central aired on Monday night. (It's on Paramount+.)

MAGA is deeply engrained into the younger people, partially because they have current/relevant podcasts and stuff like Turning Point USA and, oh yeah, Donald Trump shows up at UFC events and they've turned UFC into a mini-rally for Trump/MAGA.

 

Ummmm…. Trump carried most all the swing states (AZ included) by 3% or less. His superpower is turning out non traditional voters and lying. If you think that any other politician can get away with what he does, I’d be interested to hear how.

The real problem Dems have is structural disadvantage in the Senate, and increasingly in the House.

 

"Dems need better candidates" AKA - not black Lib females our super-concerned-about-Dem-politics P&CE ICs would say.

Trump is already ranked in the bottom 3 of presidents and has a real good chance at being the worst ever. I rank him as a top 5 worst American along with Booth, Dahmer, Clarence Thomas and Anthony Kiedis. Lots of people like Arby's & Taco Bell in this country too.

 

To quote Ozymandias from Watchmen, nothing ever ends. Other thing is the abortion thing is going to be what hurt GOP similar to the way busing hurt Dems in the 70s. Turning theory into praxis tends to do that.

If special elections are anything to go by, GOP will hopefully end up in the wilderness for a generation.

 

They are not.

 

Hillary Clinton is black?

 

Agreed, but this doesn't seem to damage his appeal as a candidate to huge swatches of the population.

 

Yup.

And here's the crazy part: the only thing that activist's position does is make it more likely that the only "freedom" that Palestine will have is freedom from existence. It's all so insane.

 

Who's this "our" you're referring to? You're an IC and probably to the right of that