Post-match: So what is next for the Democratic Party? (Post 2024)

Yeah. I think the main concern is that Dems are losing motivation while getting pummeled by culture war lies, and Trump elections are just weird. I think the recent drop is probably due to more coming out about how Biden’s inner circle deluded themselves into thinking he should run again and could do the job. (Same goes for Trump, but apparently no one cares?) We’ll see if it holds up. It likely also depends if the Dems can rally around a unified narrative and identify a party leader.

All those immigrants who voted Trump because they were mad that Dems made it too easy for new comers will probably sit out another election instead of voting Dem.

If prices stay high and the economy & employment weakens, then the GOP really has a bad outlook next round. People like to say it will last long, but if we’ve learned anything, it’s that vacillating voters are only deciding on what’s right in their face.

I think Dems will continue to “overperform” in special elections, and struggle in general elections where lower propensity voters show up.

 

I would like to believe that Republicans are facing a generational issue where they can't be elected for decades because of how badly they ********ed everything up, but I believed that in 2008 (stupid pointless invasion of Iraq and very big recession) and again in 2020 (Trump and Covid), but both times, they bounced back way sooner than I thought was possible.

With that said, we haven't had a Presidential election without Trump since 2012, and my working theory is that as a cult leader, Trump gets votes that other Republicans would not get, which is why I think things will change when he dies. I would say in 2028 but Republicans are going to work very hard to put him on the ballot in some fashion for a third term, because they need that lift he brings. This is, of course, if elections still happen after the upcoming terrorist attacks and implementation of martial law which will cancel elections from 2026 on.

 

I don't think a V for Vendetta is needed. As prices rise and more people lose their jobs, and more unmarked "ICE agents" snatch more and more people off the street, it's only a matter of time before someone sees an unmarked van pull up on a young lady (or chil) in baklava masks and just opens fire on them. There's a response, people protest (summer is always prime protest time) and he cracks down the only way he knows how and Bob's your uncle.

 

Pete Buttigieg aide admits that the Bragg case was bone-headed lawfare in an attempt to sway an election

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Don't believe your lying eyes! All the documents are fake! That wasn't his voice! DEEEEEPPOPP STATE!!!!11111

 

Jared Polis shouldn’t be The Next Guy because he’s anti union.

So, so many of America’s problems today, not just Dems’, but America’s, are because of the decline of labor unions. I can’t see a path to consistent success over the next 10-15 years without effective support for unions.

1. WWC people in unions are statistically less racist and more progressive than WWC people not in unions.
2. I haven’t seen “proof” or anything but I think part of the young male crisis in the US is directly (the social aspects) and indirectly (lower wages) is attributable to the demise of private sector unions.
3. Unions once were powerful lobbyists on the other side of economic issues from the rich. That’s gone.
4. Unions are crucial for voter education, especially for the 22 months out of every 24 that aren’t September and October of even numbered years.
5. Unions reduce income inequality. The US’ GINI coefficient is really bad compared to peer nations, which has many, many direct and indirect effects on our politics.

I could go on but 5 seems like enough

 

Very, very interesting.

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Wait, what?????? It’s Democrats who demand orthodoxy??????

What color is the sky, in your world?

 

GQP is a fascist cult. Democrats (I do mean the party) are institutionalists. They want what's best for the party. There is a huge difference in ideology there but neither one is set up to do best by the people.

 

Bill Maher is the "liberal" Joe Rogan? Seriously? No surprise this is coming from Josh Barro, one of the dumbest political "journalists" out there. That dude hasn’t had a correct take in years.

 

The closest that exists to a "Joe of the Left" would be Hasan or Vaush I guess. And I don't think it's something than can be artificially created with a huge infusion of cash. That ain't going to work. The only way to make something like that possible would be for the Dem Party to work with independent media and allow them to do their thing, but that would require a fundamental shift of beliefs from protecting the institution at all costs to being responsive to their base.

Anything less will come across as hollow and half hearted.

 

Yes, but they generally come down on helping average Americans and historically maltreated Americans all while doing their best to rein in the most rotten impulses of tdoay's GOP cult. They ain't perfect. But Lord knows what a fascist-lite Democratic Party would allow Donnie to do. Like a couple of hundred Merrick Garlands out there putting out Susan Collins-y "I'm very concerned" tweets but voting for the killing of democracy anyway.

 

He clearly wants to be a TOTL. Wonder if he can get back with Kimberly...

 

Yeah, having people on and having a slanging match, even if it means they won't come back again, is the issue.

 

It's not OK to have them come on the show to begin with. That's the ridiculous starting point. "Just asking questions on Area 51n 9/11 & fluoride in the water. I'm just a dumb comedian, remember?"