Pre-match: So should Frank play back ups on Saturday?

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by bunge, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I say play back ups. The "regular" season is regular. The USOC is something special.
     
  2. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I want the team that is kicking ass in the reserve league to get a chance against the big boys. Put a bus in front of goal, run your ass off and hope for a lucky break.
     
  3. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    +1 <-- BigSoccer sucks ASS because I need at least 5 characters to post.
     
  4. burningfire

    burningfire Member+

    May 15, 2009
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  5. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Feature the Open Cup game. I want the trophy and the Champions League berth to validate the season. I see Houston wondering who this Israeli kid is.
     
  6. Count Chocula

    Count Chocula Member+

    May 7, 2010
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    rest the key players. pardo and nyarko (and injured grazzini) should be out at the very least.

    wouldnt mind seeing pappa get a half in just to keep his momentum up

    i wanna see barouch for a whole match.
     
  7. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the Fire had lost to RSL as expected, I'd have no reservations about saying start the reserve team, but now that they are only a game back from a play-off berth, I think Frank should go with a mix of first and second teamers.
     
  8. cweimers

    cweimers Member+

    Mar 5, 2010
    DC
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dammit fire, I'm starting to believe!
     
  9. LocoGueroFutobolista

    Apr 18, 2004
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Back-ups. The Cup is the reason for the season.
     
  10. Kozy

    Kozy tHE pOPULAR fRONT

    Oct 13, 2004
    check.
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rest the veterans at least...

    It helps a little bit that it's a 3:00 start on Saturday, but Frank should still let the reserve team prove themselves...and, I think we can win this game with the bench...it will also make it difficult for Houston to figure out an effective game plan with a lot of new faces in the lineup...and believe me, the backups will do everything in their power not to lose this one, or the flight to seatle won't be fun for them.

    ;)
     
  11. ciclismosam

    ciclismosam New Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Downers Grove, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think there should be a good mix of players on Sat. Try to keep the back line mostly intact, but maybe rest Gibbs and maybe Segares. Same in the mid-field, give Grazzini and Pardo the night off, and maybe only make Pappa put in 60 mins or so. And mix up the forwards, maybe just start Oduro with either Chaves or Orr and then sub Nyarko for Oduro later in the game and keep both speedsters fresh.
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No Pardo, No Gargan (only real RB we have) and no Segares.

    Maybe Pappa, Oduro and Nyarko on the bench.



    [LINEUP-4-4-2]Barouch, Chaves, Bone, Pause, Husidic, Palladini, Penta, Anibaba, Cuesta, Videria, Johnson[/LINEUP-4-4-2]

    Bring in Pappa, Oduro or Nyarko if needed in the second half.
     
  13. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    This is a tough decision, but the decision should be based on fitness and who is carrying injuries. Grazzini should definitely sit. We really don't have many options for LB and RB so Gonzo should play and either Gargan or Anibaba at RB. Nyarko keeps getting battered on the field so he should probably sit and maybe Pappa just because of his summer.

    I think Barouch or Chaves should come in for Nyarko.
     
  14. iron81

    iron81 Member+

    Jan 6, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Some of our starters have played practically every day, even when I thought they should be rested. It seems like some of them have more trouble with short rest than others. With that in mind:

    [LINEUP-4-4-2]Chaves, Oduro, Pappa, Paladini, Pardo, Pause, Segares, Gibbs, Mikulic, Anibaba, Johnson[/LINEUP-4-4-2]
    I want Anibaba to start Tuesday at CB, but he only had a substitute appearance yesterday so he already got his rest.

    Banner is probably a better option than Pari at backup LB. He's been off the injury report for a couple weeks now.
     
  15. cweimers

    cweimers Member+

    Mar 5, 2010
    DC
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gibbs should probably be rested, particularly at this late stage of the season.
     
  16. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    At a minimum, sit:

    Grazzini
    Pardo
    Gibbs
    Segares
    Oduro
    Nyarko
     
  17. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I would rest Pardo, Oduro and Pappa. We need those guys fully rested against Seattle. Let Pause, Paladini and Vidiera work the midfield as destroyers, throw in Banner and Chaves as our wingers and let Nazarit try to head one in. BTW, anyone know what the regular Fire starting 11 in our reserve leagues look like?
     
  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I do not think we have a regular line up, plus a few players in the reserve can't play with the first team:

    Chicago Fire 3 – 0 Houston Dynamo
    Chicago Fire: Sean Johnson; Bratislav Ristic, Kwame Watson-Siriboe, Michael Videira (Peter Beasley 65’), Pari Pantazopoulos; Corben Bone, Martin Rivas (Brady Wahl 86’), Daniel Paladini, Davis Paul; Orr Barouch, Gabriel Ferrari (Manny Rios 71’)

    Rapids
    Chicago Fire Reserves – Alec Dufty; Bratislav Ristic, *Peter Beasley, Kwame Watson-Siriboe, Pari Pantazopoulos; Victor Pineda; Martin Rivas, Baggio Husidic, Orr Barouch (*Manny Guzman 73’), Davis Paul; Patrick Nyarko (*Brady Wahl 89’)

    Chicago Fire Reserves 1 – 1 Sporting KC Reserves
    Chicago Fire: Alec Dufty; Dasan Robinson, Kwame Watson-Siriboe, Josip Mikulic (Peter Beasley* 41’), Bratislav Ristic ©; Martin Rivas, Brady Wahl*, Baggio Husidic, Victor Pineda; Cristian Nazarit (Gabriel Ferrari 69’), Orr Barouch

    Dallas
    Chicago Fire: Jon Conway; Bratislav Ristic ©, Dasan Robinson, Josip Mikulic, Pari Pantazopoulos; Gabriel Ferrari (Lyle Martin** 46’), Daniel Paladini (Martin Rivas** 73’), Mike Videira (Brady Wahl* 79’), Corben Bone (Dado Hamzagic** 73’); Cristian Nazarit (Peter Beasley* 82’), Orr Barouch

    KC again
    Chicago Fire: Jon Conway; Bratislav Ristic (Brady Wahl* 54), Dasan Robinson, Josip Mikulic, Pari Pantazopoulos; Baggio Husidic, Mike Videira (Peter Beasley* 46), Corben Bone (Manny Guzman* 66), Victor Pineda; Diego Chaves (Martin Rivas** 54), Orr Barouch

    Missing the line up for Colorado #2

    Chicago Fire 2 – 0 Real Salt Lake
    Chicago Fire: Jon Conway (Alec Dufty 46’); Victor Pineda, Josip Mikulic, Yamith Cuesta, Mike Banner (Gonzalo Segares 46’); Michael Videira, Daniel Paladini, Baggio Husidic (AJ Jeffries 46’*), Pari Pantazopoulos; Cristian Nazarit (Kellen Gulley 64’), Diego Chaves

    Dallas
    Chicago Fire Reserves – Jon Conway, *Francisco Mendoza (Pari Pantazopoulos 46), Yamith Cuesta, Kwame Watson-Siriboe, Dan Gargan, Daniel Paladini, Orr Barouch, Baggio Husidic, Mike Videira (Corben Bone 62), Diego Chaves (Kellen Gulley 58), Cristian Nazarit (Victor Pineda 53).

     
  19. iron81

    iron81 Member+

    Jan 6, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The thing with focusing on Houston is, I would MUCH, MUCH rather win the USOC than make the playoffs.

    • You don't get a trophy for making the playoffs.
    • I want to go nuts in Seattle on Tuesday
    • I want to attend CCL games next year
    • Even if we make the playoffs, we have a long way to go to win MLS Cup. The playoffs are a means to an end, not the end itself
     
  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    • I already used up my playoff ticket for a US Open cup game :eek: :D
     
  21. Andy Zilis

    Andy Zilis Member+

    Mar 9, 2005
    Rochelle, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess I'm going to be in the minority here, but I'd like to see most of the regulars start on Saturday. Rest Grazzini again just to make sure he's ready to go on Tuesday, and maybe give one of our fragile central defenders another break, but other than that, I say go with the first team.

    We can sub some players out early depending on how the game is going, but I just don't see a huge upside to resting them. RSL rested a ton of regulars against DCU on Saturday for all the good it did them. Keep the momentum going and get a win in Houston. If we beat Houston, we have a good chance at catching them in the standings.
     
  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well getting a red card early on was not a very good tactic by RSL, rest or no rest. ;)
     
  23. DLee

    DLee Member

    Apr 24, 2006
    Chicago
    Don't worry, we wouldn't host the one-game playoff anyway.

    Still dont think we have a realistic shot at the playoffs - so it's a no brainer to do whatever it takes to be best prepared for Tuesday.
     
  24. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rest the starters, this is a great opportunity to get the reserve players some starts and meaningful minutes. Like others have said, I want to attend CCL games next year, and the only game that has direct bearing on that is Tuesday night.

    ETA: just saw that the Sounders are opening up the Hawk's Nest for this game- all the more reason to go for the jugular Tuesday night. I'd like to see how quiet we can turn a full house up there.
     
  25. Andy Zilis

    Andy Zilis Member+

    Mar 9, 2005
    Rochelle, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to revise my previous statement and also suggest resting Nyarko due to his tendency to get injured. Start Chaves in his place. You have to play Oduro against his former team, though.

    True, but they went down a goal early and then snapped (partially out of frustration IMO). They had a 5-game winning streak going, and now they've had 2 straight 3-goal losses heading into a 3-game road trip beginning in LA.

    I would have agreed if we had lost last night, but we're within 3 points of a playoff spot, and Houston is within reach if we beat them. I think the confidence of another league win will do more to bolster our chances on Tuesday than the rest.

    Houston is not a meaningless game IMO.
     

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