So, pro-war Americans/BigSoccerites...

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Century's Best, Apr 18, 2006.

  1. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    ... No WMDs. No collaborative relationship with AL-Qaeda. State Department confirms "16 words" re: African uranium were forgeries. 2300+ dead US troops, thousands wounded. Billions of dollars spent. Rumsfeld states US-style democracy not to be expected in Iraq. Sectarian violence rampant. Basic services worse than prewar levels. Infiltration by foreign terrorists. Iraq considered now as a training ground for terrorism.

    Do you think the US will win? IF so, why?
     
  2. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Oh, I don't know. I'm only pro-war because I was on the anti-war tip, and now that scene is played out. It's like, everyone is anti-war now. Just you watch - pro-war will be the crazy fresh trend of the future.
     
  3. MattR

    MattR Member+

    Jun 14, 2003
    Reston
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was for the war before I was against it.
     
  4. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I thought it was a dumb idea before I was against it. Of course now that we've broken it....
     
  5. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We still have the element of suprise. . .
     
  6. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    ******** you. I don't like your attitude.

    Don't call out all of big soccer.
     
  7. Nanbawan

    Nanbawan Member

    Jun 11, 2004
    Haute Bretagne
    Club:
    Stade Rennais FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Well, at least they changed the status quo...:eek:
     
  8. Clinton AFC

    Clinton AFC New Member

    Aug 14, 2004
    Clinton
    I remember how in high school ('77-'81), I liked The Ramones & The Sex Pistols & The Clash and everyone else liked REO Speedwagon and said my music was shite & unpopular & stupid, etc, etc.

    The music I appreciated then is now enshrined in the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame while no one except overweight 40-something divorcees admit to ever liking REO Speedwagon.

    Let's say that I've got a feeling about this, too. ;)
     
  9. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is the definition of winning? What is the definition of losing?
     
  10. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    All of Big Soccer? I pointed out those who support the war.
     
  11. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    A complete end of insurgent violence with the pacification, extermination, or arrest of the insurgents, foreign and domestic.

    A complete and permanent cessation of sectarian hostilities.

    A permanent consolidation of Iraq as a unified state with a strong central government which is satisfactory to Kurds, Shia, and Sunni Iraqis.

    The end of local autonomous acts (such as Kurds making oil deals w/ Scandinavian companies without consulting Baghdad).

    Restoration of the public services which are now worse than pre-war levels.

    Restoration of the oil industry.

    And of course, US-style democracy.

    Losing, of course, would be to fail to achieve all these goals... and to see Iraq splinter. Or at least remain in a longlasting state of violence.
     
  12. DamonEsquire

    DamonEsquire BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 16, 2002
    Kentucky
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I support the War. USA isn't leave region for 99 years. This agreement, albiet government does not fail; worked in Korea. It also worked in Germnay and it is working in Kosovo. Buddy your cable news rhetoric. It is like the out of nation support against cartoon strips. I am sure danish fellas went to Africa.
    Anyhow the USA hasn't wholeheartedly lost anything of importance. It wont start with a bunch of bag fillers. Whom cannot follow its country's descisions....
     
  13. Jon Pall

    Jon Pall Member

    Mar 29, 2003
    Washington D.C/Sao Paulo
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I believe I just found a bot.
     
  14. Clinton AFC

    Clinton AFC New Member

    Aug 14, 2004
    Clinton
    Whoops! Sounds like my grandfather's generation lost France!
     
  15. Munuc

    Munuc New Member

    Mar 3, 2006

    Yea, I hate jews too. Wait a second....what the hell. There's nothing about....well nevermind then.
     
  16. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You realize that took over decades to achieve here after the Civil War, right?
     
  17. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    No. If anything, DamonEsquire gave bigsoccer's owners the idea for bots, but he's not a bot himself so far as anyone can tell.
     
  18. aloisius

    aloisius Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Croatia
    Wtf is he then?

    i'd hate to die without knowing the truth.
     
  19. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Let's call him out:

    DamonEsquire: Are you a bot, or not?
     
  20. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice form. A little rough on the landing. He may have to settle for the Bronze.
     
  21. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A god amongst men.
     
  22. DamonEsquire

    DamonEsquire BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 16, 2002
    Kentucky
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Iraq Strategy Draws Fire
    I don't know if I am a BOT. This article keeps update and leads to assertions. Still know hard nose facts.
    How to Win in Iraq
    This article is a couple of months old. Pretty lengthy but education exsist from page 2.

    Time for a Radical Departure This article is what we hear alot around town. History still creases only with time.
    Radical Departure: Toward A Practical Peace in Iraq
    Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) seems to mind and undermind affairs in Iraq. So try not to shoot the messenger. Please!
    Sorry if some doesn't like it but they stake a claim in attacks. By God, it will amount to worthiness. Pretty lengthy and is found under Search: Military departure: Iraq
     
  23. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    Damon is German, IIRC, and runs his posts through a translator.

    He actually has some very good points, not just in this thread but in many others.
     
  24. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Does supporting the removal of a fascist murderous thug who ruled unjustly by the sheer force of fear make a person pro-war in your estimate?

    I am not pro-war, but I believe there are worse things in life than war.
     
  25. Matrim55

    Matrim55 Member+

    Aug 14, 2000
    Berkeley
    Club:
    Connecticut
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think willful stupidity and self-delusion is worse, to take a totally random example.
     

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