Michael Ricketts is a proven scorer in the EPL, perhaps the highest level of football in the world. McBride hasn't proved shite. AND he's over 30. AND he doesn't have an EU passport. does that clear anything up for you?
1. From what I understand, the transfer window closing doesn't mean a full transfer to Everton is out of the question. 2. Is Michael Ricketts really considered a "proven scorer" in the EPL? 3. I have no idea what McBride is worth, but he's proven a little something at the international level, wouldn't you say? Moyes has said he is looking to buy younger players, but who knows if McBride continues to do well or if suspensions and injuries come into play again.
Boy, you really don't like Brian McBride... I wouldn't suggest that it's a perfect comparison, but McBride and Ricketts each have scored three non-PK goals in the EPL this season. Ricketts has played 22 games; McBride has played 4.
"Does that clear anything up for you".. Wow, and to think I get called (frequently) a McBride hater/basher.....looks like they been venting on/against the wrong guy-g McBride is obviously worth SOMETHING, so your veiled (not-so veiled) implication is kindof stupid, its a valid question- and an interesting one, I think- is how MCbride rates (transfer-price wise) vs. a posting fave like Ricketts....sure, there are a lot of difference (age, nationality, games played), but that's what makes this exercise kindof fun, doncha think.. (I'll wait to hear argument before I post my views...kindof interested to hear the body of collective knowledge/ideas)
If you don't take into account age/nationality (which you should) McBride is the better player... Ricketts is definantly not a proven EPL goalscorer... he had one good year that does not make you proven. Ricketts has played for England once (i believe) McBride is an experenced international who is a key offensive presance for his country. Calling Ricketts a proven EPL goalscorer is ridiculous IMO... Proven goalscorers in the EPL are: Henry, Owen, Shearer, JFH ovbiously this isn't the complete list, but just an example. What has Ricketts done really? He hasn't done anything... I mean Kevin Phillips led the EPL in scoring one year... it doesn't mean anything. All this being said Ricketts will proabably be worth more ONLY because of age/nationality i would say 2-3 million Pounds would be reasonable
how does McBride not have an EU passport? Surely all of his national team play would have put him over the mark to get a passport.
he qualifies for a UK work permit with those caps, but to have a passport you have to have actual blood ties (parents/grandparents) or married to a passport holder.
I believe the intial point about the passport was noone would pick him up since he does not have one. The Caps qualify him for the work permit which allows him to be picked up by an English team?
I'm sorry, I was replying to Crestuden's question about him getting a passport. What are you trying to say that was different from what I was saying? Not trying to be a pain, but I have no idea what you are saying. Teams in Europe can pick up non- Euros if they think they are worthy.
The point is that getting a UK work permit and getting and English/UK passport are two different things. Of course English teams can pick him up but McBride will still count as a non-EU player.
Re: What's the point... You don't need to be under the transfer window to extend a loan, and I imagine someone would have to get some kind of $ for that.
Ricketts is crap. Tottenham fans were glad to see them not get him, even though he may well be better than Iverson though that says nothing. McBride is probably worth 1 to 1.5 million quid more due to age than ability. That said MLS would never sell him for that low so it doesn't matter.
I think MLS would sell McB for, if not 1.5 m pounds, than not much more than that. He's 31 years old (is this right, I think it's right). A transfer of more than $2 million pays for an entire team roster in MLS. Two million pounds pays for two entire teams. Not meant as a McBride bash at all, but there are very few players worth a higher value than their entire squad. So to answer the intial question, because of age and passport, he's worth about half a ricketts. This, btw, would make a great international standard for finance. ``The US will spend 50 Ricketts a month on the Iraq invastion'' ``You should see his house, gotta be a quarter Rickett...'' And on...
That's not a serious offer, so I doubt that's an accurate rumor. I mean, hell, I heard MLS was going to offer Everton $2M for Rooney, now that he's signed a pro contract. Oh yeah, and they're offering $5M for Zidane. He's too old to offer more. OK, OK, I'm being sarcastic. But 3/4 of a million dollars is silly.
Not if your goal is to start the bidding off at a low price. I wouldn't buy McBride at all if I were Everton. Snaggin' him for $750K would be a bargain. MLS is likely to want $ 2 million, which I don't think Everton is willing to pay.
In all fairness, Ricketts was unsettled for the majority of the season according to most, which I suppose you can blame some of his poor season on, well that and the fact that he is on Bolton.... McBride would be able to fetch around 2 million pounds, but nothing beyond that for a number of reasons. Whether you like it or not Ricketts had a whole season of success in England, McBride has had 3 games. How quickly we all forget the start JMM got off to as well. The work permit wouldn't be a problem, but he would be a foriegn player, and I question whether he could withstand a whole season of being a target man in the EPL, it is important to realize that the game is much faster and the defenders are better and more physical then in the MLS. If McBride has a season like Ricketts has put together in the past, sure, maybe he can be compared, but the combination of his age, nationality, and lack of long term success will bring MLS little for him unless he simply basically averages a goal a game for the rest of his loan period.
Didn't Ricketts spend much of the 2nd half of last season out of favor with the coach -- and on the bench?
McBride will have (would have) no problem getting a work permit for playing in the Prem. He's a current international who has played in the past 70% of his countries games (I believe it's still that figure fro qualifying). If he hasn't gotten the 70% then he's at least got enough games and the right nationality to fulfill the "mitigating circumstances". But he isn't EU, and a UK team can only have 3 non-EU players on the pitch at the same time, and if the team doesn't give him a certain amount of first team games he loses his work permit. It all gets very messy. Non-EU players are costly things to have. Try playing CM. You'll soon realise that.