small businesses are bad for the economy

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's common sense if you think about it, and it correlates with anyone's basic observation of the world around them, but sometimes it needs to be pointed out.

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    You'll notice that the nations at the top of the chart have crappy economies, and nations at the bottom have great economies. So let's stop valorizing small businesses in our politics. They're bad for the economy.
     
  2. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Fixed.

    So, you don't like giant corporate America and you don't like small business America. Got it. ;)
     
  3. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Ha well it doesn't work quite like that, but I'm glad to see the backlash against small companies. They've been holier than thou for a while now, implying how much more valuable they are than the rest of Americans, and pshaw. There is a place for the small businessman, and for the trade worker, and for the teacher, and for the corporate executive, and for the scientist, and for the government worker, and for the fast-food flunkie. None of you are purer and more valuable than the next.
     
  4. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    But they are the Job-creators (please, please, please let this word of the year. Its got that 'truthiness' feel to it).
     
  5. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yes. And to add to your point, it is a well known fact that in any given city or town there are always more small businesses relative to large businesses in the poorest, crappiest parts of town than anywhere else. The smaller the business, the more likely that it will be located in some shit location.

    So the conclusion must follow that small businesses are responsible for making their neighborhoods poor and turning them to shit.
     
  6. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But But But small business can make people a star

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    or a slob, depending on how you look at Triple D's
     
  7. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I knew it! :)
     
  8. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    A Wal-mart for every ghetto in America, there is the secret for the recovery.

    Why have so many small pop and mom liquor and gun stores when you can buy it all in Wal-Mart?
     
  9. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just as soon as Wal-Mart starts selling individual Swisher Sweets.
     
  10. Roel

    Roel Member

    Jan 15, 2000
    Santa Cruz mountains
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    In a healthy economy, small businesses become large businesses.

    In an unhealthy economy, small businesses fail to thrive, and never really grow up.
     
  11. Michael Russ

    Michael Russ Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Buffalo, NY
    This has to be the stupidist thread ever, but lets test Daves little theory of correlation here. The claim is that small business is not good for job creation, so let's compare this number with the unemployment levels for these countries and sort them by lowest to highest unemployment:

    Contry - unemplyment rate - share of small business
    Norway 2.8 48.4
    Denmark 4.2 44.4
    Austria 4.3 48.7
    Australia 5.2 53.1
    Mexico 5.26 55.3
    Netherlands 5.6 49.6
    New Zealand 6.5 48.8
    Germany 6.6 40.7
    Sweden 6.8 45.4
    Belgium 6.8 51.4
    Finland 6.9 42.2
    Italy 7.9 68.7
    United Kingdom 8.1 38.9
    Czech Republic 8.2 47.4
    United States 9.1 34.1
    France 9.6 44.7
    Hungary 10.8 55.4
    Poland 11.8 49.3
    Portugal 12.1 64.7
    Slovakia 12.98 47.2
    Estonia 13.3 53.1
    Lithuania 15.6 49.2
    Greece 16.3 75.5
    Latvia 16.5 50.6
    Spain 20.89 62.6

    Yes some of the clunkers correlate like Spain and Greece, but how do you explain the likes of Australia, Mexico, Lithuania and Slovakia?

    Just putting these numbers into a spreadsheet I get a r squared of .181 which is much closer to a random pattern than a tight correlation.
     
  12. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you remove the PIIGS and the USA, the percentage for "great" to "crappy" economies varies largely from 45-55, with the average a little bit over 50%. Drawing conclusions about this chart may be a little simplistic. Moreover, it's not linear: would you say the Dutch economy is that different than the Austrian? Is Australia's worse than, say, Slovenia? I'd say that this is a correlation not a causation. If we were to remove all non-Western European countries I think you'd be able to say certain things about the Western European economic system, but not the Oceania economic system, the North American, or any other part of the world.

    That said, the way we are mesmerized with small business these days to the detriment of other parts of the country is a bad thing.
     
  13. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You went for regression first in order to test correlation??? Did you try Pearson's first???
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No it isn't.
    This is my little attempt to make America a better place.
     
  15. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, I don't like you very much, but this thread is:


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  16. DamonEsquire

    DamonEsquire BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 16, 2002
    Kentucky
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its all about candy. If you had all big business, there would only be a couple bowls in the whole place. Limited selections! These smaller buildings are a place to dump and separate. I usually coin the phrase "Glue sticks when it wants to." That really sums up How to work fairly right with little wrongs. You can claustrophobia this into something really huge but My web therapist is busy for the rest of the season. Besides that, How would you get a flu shot at The Little Clinic in Kroger? It is tough to do without these gorilalistic sleep cells... I bring this back in a minute...
    I got a kitchen carousel with rooms. I can go from Kitchen to living room and Living room to dining room (which is the computer room now) back to kitchen. Now normally you say that is common or uncommon depending on your brand of jeans. But it is factual, I can take 15 steps or 45 feet and be back at the start line. I speed walk and get 8 rounds per minute. I take 5 minute breaks to record what happen. I then go to the other door of kitchen and go backwards with a five minute break. Once I do 2 or 3 seasons (15-25 minutes). I might run some. This increases my 8 rounds per minute to 12 rounds per minute. Average. I did faster but want to slow it up some. I also did this barefoot and it does enhance your community awareness in a shorter amount of time.
    Basically I was turned on by circles but not to dizzy and I went 5.5 miles or just under. 31,200 feet or 1 hour and 25 minutes... Concussions and small business are beneficial... Any Questions?
     
  17. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Verily, the perfect response to this thread...
     
  18. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    The best thing about this post is that it has been edited.
     
  19. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's all talk and no action. Neither party gives two shits about small business in reality.
     
  20. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    That's why they say all those nice things. No need to blow kisses at the big boys, they're getting the goodies and they know it.
     
  21. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't realize how much I missed you until you came back. Seriously.
     
  22. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    There are at least two places in town where if you buy a Swisher, a homeless guy will follow you out to your car and politely ask you if you'd be kind enough to split the shell right now (since you're going to do it anyway) and give him the tobacco.
     
  23. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    First they came for the Jews on Wall Street, but I was silent...
     
  24. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Always leave it to the Dirty Foreigner to go all Protocols on you.
     
  25. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    We can’t all claim to be native born… and hell, I’m not in the other tribe.
     

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