SKC v. Chi @ LSP, 9/28, 7:30pm p/i/p [R]

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by KopRules, Sep 24, 2012.

  1. KopRules

    KopRules Member+

    May 31, 2011
    Beautiful South KC
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Chicago is in town for another Fri night game. Given the nat'l tv audience, Chicago's desire to bring flags, and LSP's stadium rules, lets hope all supporters take the time to review their spelling.

    Chicago has won 7 of their last 8, despite no shutouts in their last 10 matches. KC's last opponent, Montreal, lost 3-1, Sept. 15, at Toyota Park Landfill.

    Per James' stats, during MLS regular season play, KC is a woeful 10 Wins, 22 Loses, 10 Draws, with a -30 GD v. Chi. In June, we ran around like madmen in 100 degree heat, firing 27 shots, owning over 60% possession -- none of which did us any good.

    A tie will feel like a loss. Chi trail us by 2 points, with a game in-hand (though currently even on points-per-game, 1.83). That said, KC are +4 on Chi in terms of overall GD; however, if we cant beat them this season, I have hard time believing we deserve to top them in the table.
     
  2. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have yet to beat Chicago in Kansas, we have drawn/loss all games at Cab and LSP, we also lost a USOC game at BVDAC. Last win at home against Chicago was 2007!
     
  3. Jough

    Jough Member+

    Jul 30, 2007
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't want to sound like I'm okay with a tie, nor do I want to sound like I've given up on the SS, but with the way the playoffs are structured a point wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

    Winning the SS would be nice and I'd love love love to have three back to back Eastern titles, but more than a little of what I'm concerned about is not picking up any more injuries or lengthy suspenions and absolutely not finishing in fourth or fifth. A point puts us six clear of DC, but it sucks that they've got the tiebreaker on us...

    edit - upon further thinking, this sort of is must win if we want to control our own destiny. We need 8 more points this year to lock up a 1 -3 spot. Two home games seem like they'd be the most winnable.

    Still not terrible to draw, but then either Columbus away or New York away become must wins...
     
  4. Falsify

    Falsify Member

    Jul 28, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm extremely nervous about this game. A win could mean leading the East as well as a possible shot at SS. A loss would almost certainly knock us out of the race for SS and will also hurt us by not having home field advantage for the playoffs.
     
  5. Jough

    Jough Member+

    Jul 30, 2007
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Playoffs are two game series this year, so it would only hurt us in the sense we wouldn't host the Cup game, which would be not cool, but acceptable given how good SJ is playing.

    The play in games at 4 and 5 are what scare me most...
     
  6. DirtyStriker

    DirtyStriker Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    Basehor, KS
    If we don't win the SS which doesn't look likely, I almost care more about having more points than the second team in the West than winning the East. SJ has been playing great, but I can see their knack of late game heroics not kicking in during one of the playoff games and being knocked out. The only nice thing about winning the East is it gurantees if we go to OT/PK's before the final we are hosting them.
     
  7. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This should be encouraging, since SKC is 16-3-4 overall and 8-1-2 at home when scoring at least one goal; except that Chicago has been to LSP twice and has yet to give up a goal there.

    Which, unfortunately, is irrelevant since goals scored is the first tiebreaker--and Chicago is 5 ahead of SKC in that department.
     
  8. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed; the magic number for that outcome is now 9. SKC has the best away record in MLS this year, and their home-field advantage has not been overwhelming, so it should not make much difference in a two-leg series which venue comes first. Still, it would be nice to start on the road and hopefully get a win, which would force the opponent to make a legitimate effort to score at LSP.
     
  9. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    A draw is absolutely not acceptable here. A draw means that Chicago is still two points behind us with a game in hand. This is, quite frankly, the biggest must win game of the rest of the regular season.
     
  10. SombraAla

    SombraAla Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Waldo (Kansas City)
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Totally winnable. If we take our chances like we did in NY we win 2 or 3 to nil. We had plenty of chances their first time to LSP this year but we just didn't put them away. That CJ and Kei put away those chances as well as they did in NY is promising. We just have to hope that Sean Johnson plays more like he did in the first half vs. Philly last Thurs than he did against us in LSP earlier.
     
  11. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. KopRules

    KopRules Member+

    May 31, 2011
    Beautiful South KC
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Doh! Thanks for correcting me.
    Obvious statement alert: early goal by the home side would be nice.
     
  13. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Realized I screwed this up. a win and dropped points by Houston and we're guaranteed a top 4 spot. Meaning a playin game would be at LSP.
     
  14. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SKC's magic number to clinch a top-three spot is now 8; i.e., the sum of points gained by SKC and dropped by either New York or DC. So it will not happen this weekend.
     
  15. Jough

    Jough Member+

    Jul 30, 2007
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sort of selectively forgot about extra time and penalties and how homefield advantage would work...

    You know will be sort of nice going into this match? A rested Roger and Collin.

    I'd really like to see Bobby Convey finishing the season match fit... God I think we'll miss him in the postseason, even if we seem to have found our early season form without him.
     
  16. SombraAla

    SombraAla Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Waldo (Kansas City)
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd like to see Bobby Convey again, period. I'm really frustrated with the whole thing b/c I wasn't sold on him at first and then I finally came around and then he was gone.

    I think Seth played his best with Convey in... and I haven't really seen much from Seth in recent games - nothing bad, but he hasn't been contributing much going forward either.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Markovic getting some time in these last few games, I really liked what I saw from him vs. DC. Perhaps a late sub if we're needing something different... and maybe some more significant minutes v Philly or something.
     
  17. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. KopRules

    KopRules Member+

    May 31, 2011
    Beautiful South KC
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Convey not on the recent injury report (though, I cannot specifically remember whether he has been on the official report all the time or not).

    SPORTING KANSAS CITY -- OUT: FW Teal Bunbury (L knee ACL tear); DF Cyprian Hedrick (L fibula fracture); QUESTIONABLE: MF Paulo Nagamura (R foot contusion)

    CHICAGO FIRE -- OUT: DF Cory Gibbs (R knee meniscus repair); QUESTIONABLE: MF Pavel Pardo (L calf tightness)
     
  19. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    give it one game. yeah, i'm quite cynical about it.

    at this point, anything he contributes should be considered a bonus, since we've basically been w/out him for most of the season. my concern, however, is that he's going to be taking up a critical place on the field while not being game fit ... essentially becoming a detriment instead of a positive contributor.
     
  20. Oobers

    Oobers Member+

    Oct 17, 2011
    Boise
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    IMO we've had a big hole in his position that we've been trying to fill. If Peterson is healthy, then I could see your argument, but I'm still not sold on sticking Zusi up there and having Nagamura start in the midfield. I'd rather see Zusi back in the midfield, Convey/Peterson up top, and Nagamura on the bench.
     
  21. cjgwizard

    cjgwizard Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    LSP, section 129
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately no Jake for this one, therefore I think we see Zusi back up top again with Roger's return. Gotta score early in this one, especially since we haven't scored against them yet at LSP. I actually have a good feeling about this one. I was more worried about the NY game. Fresh Roger and Collin, hyped up crowd, playoff spot can be clinched. The scary part is how we play on national TV...
     
  22. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i would too, but only if it's not a lame convey.
     
  23. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Raise your hand if you knew Cory Gibbs was still in the league.
    Yeah, didn't think so.

    Did anyone ever hear why Collin wasn't in the 18 vs Montreal? Just gave him a rest? Hope it wasn't anything more than that.
     
  24. Oobers

    Oobers Member+

    Oct 17, 2011
    Boise
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Knowning Vermes, I doubt he'd sub in an injured Convey.
     
  25. KopRules

    KopRules Member+

    May 31, 2011
    Beautiful South KC
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Id rule out injury, at the least. His facebook said something about salsa dancing the other night. Assuming you dont salsa dance if you are injured, Im thinking we'll see the popped collar Fri for sure. Of course, this is Collin we're talking about, so expecting anything is a highly flawed way of thinking.
     
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