Since when did 'Arab' become a dirty word?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Sardinia, Nov 9, 2003.

  1. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Instead of searching for kooky web sites take a look at typical textbooks and newspapers in much of the Arab world.
     
  2. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    I stumble accidentally to that link... I was looking for a photo of an arab child.

    Look

    http://it.altavista.com/image/resul...vkw=aapt&mip=all&mik=photo&mik=graphic&stq=20

    Click on the sixth one (the only one that looked like a normal photo).

    btw the results you get with that search are depressing.

    Stop your paranoia vs. me and my supposed "vicious" intents.

    You didn't comment the fact that Kappa18 agrees with the enlightened "opinions" of those morons.
    I am not going to say he represents other than himself.
    Mine it's a general attitude, give it a try yourself.

    I don't understand arab so it's hard to read the typical arab newspapers.
    I can imagine what you mean with "typical newspapers" though.
     
  3. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    You're not Kappa18? Ok then be wary of

    [​IMG]

    I'd love to hear about your "general attitude" that applies to Israel and Israel and sometimes Israel. Also Israel.
     
  4. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
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    Some are actually.....

    But i showed it as an example......are u an immigrant?

    :) Don't forget that after the Arab war in 1948, many Syrian druzes were persecuted and infiltrated into israel to come join high ranks in the israeli army...

    but what im saying is that, arabs and arab leaders don't take initiative and try to be more progressive in society they are in.... Most muslims, even in the west see that the only problem between a Muslim getting karma and being human is fundamentalism in the religon, but its not...its literacy, its drugs, its poverty, its crime, its homicides, its alot of things.....its not just arab going nuts and reading the koran and chocking up 4 grams of cocaine each day...its more than that...

    Besides, Israel is the only place in the arab world and in the middle east where ALL The citizens will get fair treatment to medical and other utilities that will help society....

    Does Syria have medicine for all its citizens? or lebanon? or saudi arabia & UAE(though both are advanced..they don't help there society much, only if your wealthy)....

    There was actually an article in the israeli newspaper (an op-ed) from an arab councillar in the town of Umm-El-Farm in israel. He talked about the plagued in the arab community in israel, and how they purposely alienate themselves, but yet....they complain about it!!
     
  5. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
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    I know, searching for arabs on the internet and seeing depressive pictures of would be suicide bombers and ill related kids are what is shown...but what did you expect.....thats what the arabs try to perceive.... They prove there nationalism is strong throughout there children and this is the problem that is around the arab world.....there is no change....

    Why can't u see an Arab picture of a educated Arab child??? Cause they don't want education, they want brainwash...and your just joining there ride...

    sides....you call me racist cause i view the same opinion as the ones in Masada2000, when infact there right!! But if i give you any arab propoganda machine web-site you'll jump to there opinions as well...so whats the point??
     
  6. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
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    You know Ben...im a syrian jew...

    And that last pic of that soccer player..he plays for hapoel jerusalem there my enemy team!
     
  7. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    Peace in Middle East is hopeless because there are too many Kappa18s.

    They are full of hatred.
     
  8. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    This much is true.
     
  9. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    My attitude regarding Israel-Palestine is 2 ppl 2 states in the 67 borders.
    Must be the 1000th time I say it.

    I also already said that I switch from proisraeli to propalestinian when the 67 borders are trespassed in a direction or the other.
    So in presence of occupation and settlements policy I will look a die hard propalestinian cos I never get tired to say "hey, what are you doing?" especially to settlers.

    I don't think "the right of return" can be a valid realistic option (outstide of repayments and maybe some symbolic return of few refugees).

    To come back to the topic, Dr. Ashrawi shares my point of view and condamns any attack on civilians whoever does.

    To fail to give credit to reasonable palestinian leaders also with that peace prize is foolish and responds to the same exact attitude of those palestinians and arabs who still dream about the destruction of Israel. Will to keep warfare and total confrontation on.

    p.s. If you read also some other posts of mine you could understand my attitude regarding bush, cheney and their neocons.
    But in that case many US liberals and generally leftists do the job better than me, so usually no need to answer or post new arguments.
    Whenever i find something interesting as the eu poll I will post it.
     
  10. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    So does Ariel Sharon. Even Effi Eitam. I nominate Effi Eitam for the Nobel Prize!
     
  11. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    OMG.
     
  12. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Wait, are you saying "Israeli" is a dirty word? Or maybe you're saying that Sharon shouldn't win a Peace prize. There is a difference, actually.

    Ashrawi says she's against violence (like Arafat) but often excuses and justifies it. If she were a Moslem man with the exact same record, she wouldn't be popular at all.

    But you're missing my main criticism here, which is that Fisk is being hateful and using poisonous language. Just like that Masada web site.
     
  13. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    http://www.miftah.org/display.cfm?DocId=2601&CategoryId=5

    The truth is that likudniks like to have hamas and jihad as counterparts.
    They fear more the moderates than them.

    They're idea of a good moderate palestinian is one saying "yes" to anything Israel says and wants.

    Fisk being "hateful and using poisonous language" while signaling the nauseating comments on Said (rip) and the defamation campaign (coupled with economic lobbist blackmails) on Ashrawi is unbelievable.

    And you even with a logical triple jump arrived to equate him to that masada racist stuff.

    Congratulations Ben, you're full of surprises.
     
  14. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
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    MLS got hopeless when you got into the spotlight..

    sides...im pretty liberal.........Just that you live in the western hemisphere not realizing what goes on.....go watch some more CNN or BBC or that News broadcast with naked people.......

    Word to your mutha ;)
     
  15. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
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    Kappa is always right :D
     
  16. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I'm so glad to hear what an expert you now are on the Likud party.

    Oh, Hamas, they're not terrorists, right? Ashrawi said so.

    IThe criticisms are undeniably true. Her language is loaded with obvious code words that only morons or liars couldn't pick up on. And I remind you (obviously you didn't read..) "it is significant that she was part of a small minority who voted at a meeting of the Palestine National Council in 1996 against removing the clauses in the Palestinian charter that call for the destruction of Israel."

    I love this, "blackmail" You're just like Fisk. They're not entitled to any money. Furthermore, we have no real facts here, more like unsubstantiated paranoic rantings of one person. "they'll destroy you. "
    Fisk is inciting hatred and pushing all the right buttons. Of course, you eat this stuff up.
     
  17. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
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    I don't think that your views would be the same if Israel would have lost that war of 67 or 73 and would have been occupied by an Arab government? What would u think would have happened?

    [qupte]I also already said that I switch from proisraeli to propalestinian when the 67 borders are trespassed in a direction or the other.
    So in presence of occupation and settlements policy I will look a die hard propalestinian cos I never get tired to say "hey, what are you doing?" especially to settlers.[/quote]


    You were pro-israeli!?!?!? Get outta here?! You are too ashamed to tell me if your really an actual italian and why you have Pro-Palestinian/Arab/Leftist/socialist/facist/commi views......but that is a big secret...

    Also...if you get tired to say "hey! What are you doing" to a militia fighter?? Or you just scared? you scared that he is ruining not only israeli lives, but his own peoples lives...his fuxing family lives?!?!? You enjoy that part??



    Correct! Whats the point of have 3 palestinian states; Israel, Palestine (wb/Gaza) and Jordan? Israel does want a comprehensive deal. And i think in the long run, some arabs would actually come back, but some....and the ones who are not a threat nor tend to be one.

    But what about Arab Jews (like me) who got expelled from arab lands...what do we get? We got a kick punch from the arabs...now from you?



    Ashrawi opposed the Madrid Conference or any other israeli-arab/palestinian negotiation. She was one of the most critical person about it...and she is not even a muslim.
    She also praised alot of attacks and call it justifiable to kill civilians....when asked about if an attack in PA would kill her husband Emil and 2 daughters...she was silent..... Terror eats Terror, Makes terror, breads terror :)
    Like Weisenthal said...if its a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck........its a duck!!!



    Given the prize to arafat was a hoax. Everyone knew about his past.. He won it, cause he wanted to be a nelson mandela...and infact, i hope he and mandela rot in hell one day....Your welcome to join them Sardinia...thought i prefer you got up there :D

    The leftist/democrats in America have done nothing but pre-meditate 9-11 and leave the middle east in ruins...thats the leftist for you...a bunch of no worry, pot smoking weirdos...who have nothing much to do, but to gain more trouble!
     
  18. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    http://www.countercurrents.org/fisk051103.htm

     
  19. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
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    That wasn't really necessary!
     

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