Silverdome Sells - Site For Soccer Team?

Discussion in 'Detroit' started by blazindw, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. blazindw

    blazindw Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://detnews.com/article/20091116/METRO03/911160405/Canadian-company-s-$583-000-bid-wins-auction-for-Silverdome

    Whoever this Canadian company is, they are looking to bring soccer to the site. I wonder who the company is and whether this is in conjunction with Duggan and the new USL-1 team or a completely different group altogether.

    EDIT: Sorry, this should probably go in the thread that's discussing possible venues for the team. If a mod wants to move it there, that would be fine.
     
  2. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry, but this sounds like some real estate speculator taking a flyer on a ridiculous bargain. I mean, $583,000?! Hell, you could drive ten minutes in any direction but due east from the Silverdome and find houses worth more than that!

    If the buyer has deep enough pockets to tear down everything above ground and put grass into it, this could be extremely good news. However, I'm not encouraged by the statement that the buyer "hopes to bring a soccer league to the site." "A" soccer league? With no whisper of any contact with MLS? Even just the lower bowl would be at least three times too big for USL-1 (or, Zeus forbid, TOA).
     
  3. blazindw

    blazindw Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I assume the bargain would allow for them to tear the 'Dome down and build something in its place. A stadium would probably be max 1/4 the number of seats the 'Dome had.
     
  4. Davids26

    Davids26 Member

    May 31, 2000
    I wouldn't go with the quote verbatim. I'm sure it was a misquote.
     
  5. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it was not the buyer who was mentioned as saying that, it was the financial guy from the City of Pontiac. Also, some other sources are now mentioning MLS (and WPS) by name, although still not attributed to the buyer, who is still anonymous.
     
  6. jeffconn

    jeffconn Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    Norfolk, VA, USA
    Club:
    Hampton Roads Piranhas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both the stadium AND 127 acres for less than $600,000? How long until we see the Silverdome implosion on ESPN Classic?
     
  7. maltaman68

    maltaman68 New Member

    Jul 18, 2008
    Farmington, MI
    There is no way the 'dome will be up in any shape or form if soccer is ever played there. With how cheap they got it, they will probably just tear the sucker down and build whatever they want there.
     
  8. blazindw

    blazindw Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. I'm thinking a 20-25K stadium max...they'll still have plenty of land for parking and retail as well.
     
  9. DetroitTFC

    DetroitTFC BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 14, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not an expert on etiquette, but if you plan on putting a professional sports team in a city, wouldn't it more polite to let the people in that city know you want to do such a thing? How about the league that team would play in?

    I get the feeling it's all hooey. The day after the deal closes, that will be the last we hear of it.
     
  10. opal347

    opal347 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 18, 2005
    Clinton Twp, MI
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the saga continues to unfold.

    The Free Press quickly contacted Dan Duggan on the whole issue. No, he wasn't part of the bid. He was surprised that it sold to a bidder with soccer in mind, and stunned that it sold for so low.

    Things are going to get VERY interesting around here.
     
  11. blazindw

    blazindw Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They certainly are...will they join forces? Will the other company try to outdo Duggan's USL-1 bid with a bid to be MLS's 20th team? It will be very interesting to see what happens.
     
  12. TheMoozer

    TheMoozer New Member

    Oct 3, 2009
    Detroit
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there any chance two pro soccer teams could survive in Detroit?
     
  13. blazindw

    blazindw Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think a MLS and USL-1 team would. I do think a MLS/USL-1 and a PDL team would.
     
  14. wellington

    wellington Member

    Jun 4, 1999
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Rip off roof and upper deck -- lower level still seats around 42,000. Tearing up end zone seats and corners would probably put seating around 28,000+/-.

    However, like others have mentioned the cost to delicately take apart and refurbish could be more than bulldozing and building an intimate soccer facility.
     
  15. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is exactly right.

    The only thing that keeps the MLS idea in the realm of possibility is that, it wasn't just the dome that got sold for dirt cheap, but 127 acres of land with easy freeway access. It might be worth some developer's while to put more money into renovating the dome than building from scratch somewhere else if it's to be used as an anchor for a bigger development using the rest of the land.

    Of course, some of that land, most of it probably, will be for parking, but that's still a big chunk in what could be a great location.

    Another consideration is that there won't be much of a need for infrastructure improvements, which would be required just about anywhere else. That takes a bunch of money and a lot of political maneuvering and such, and has scuttled previous stadium plans elsewhere.

    But, I still want to hear the word "soccer" from the new owners before I start to get my hopes up.
     
  16. maltaman68

    maltaman68 New Member

    Jul 18, 2008
    Farmington, MI
    My feeling on this is that it was a company from Toronto who thought of the Silverdome as a steal (which for the price they were right) and they personally might be thinking, "Wow we could put a soccer stadium here for dirt cheap and make it MLS!". I have a feeling they have very little insight into how to actually apply to be an MLS expansion team and you just don't get in cause you want to.

    Now it does give a Detroit bid a lot to bring to the table, I will say that. But unless these people who bought it are soccer experts, and we don't know cause their name hasn't been released yet, I expect Duggan will eventually sit down with them and talk things out. I have no doubt that with the passion Duggan has for doing things carefully and right he will make it work (whatever it may be USL-1/MLS) for Detroit.
     
  17. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't imagine that they could have thought that they were going to go it alone in MLS. I'm hoping that they look to put together an ownership group with the venue in their hip pocket, and go from there.
     
  18. jasontoon

    jasontoon Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Allow me to counsel you about the danger of getting your hopes up. We in St. Louis jumped around like idiots for the TV cameras in September 2007, when the Collinsville, IL city council approved funding for an 18,000-seat SSS and surrounding complex. MLS found that stadium deal useful for leveraging better deals in Philadelphia and Portland, but otherwise it went nowhere.

    I know it's hard to do, but if at all possible, try not to get excited until a billionaire says he's going to bring MLS to Detroit. You'll save yourself the heartache we've gone through these past two years.
     
  19. DetroitTFC

    DetroitTFC BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 14, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sympathize with you. Don Garber has it in for STL. As for this Detroit "proposal," I have 0.000% expectation that this will ever get off square 1.
     
  20. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The upside is, if this doesn't pan out, we can always scream mean, irrational things about the motives of Don Garber and MLS at the top of our lungs all over BigSoccer, just like you St. Louis folks have done ever since. So, we have that going for us.
     
  21. bradd

    bradd Member

    Jun 11, 2008
    Detroit, MI
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on guys - stop it with the MLS in Detroit stuff.

    This is NOT going to happen. MLS will NOT be supported in Detroit. There is no way Detroit has the capability to support an MLS team. You would be looking at some of the worst attended games in MLS.

    With Dan not having anything to do with this I think it's a fair bet to say the Silverdome will continue to sit unused until it's eventually demolished for residential.
     
  22. maltaman68

    maltaman68 New Member

    Jul 18, 2008
    Farmington, MI
    I have no real expectations that we will get a MLS team in the next 5-10 years at all. Honestly if we do, I might fall over dead, but until that point I just don't see it happening. What I was trying to say in my last post is that this brings something to the table, but its one of many things needed.

    I will be perfectly happy to sing my heart out for a Detroit USL-1 team.
     
  23. Jboc15

    Jboc15 New Member

    Jun 7, 2009
    Detroit

    Like the Crews' playoff game?

    I'd like to know why you think we couldnt support MLS here.
     
  24. bradd

    bradd Member

    Jun 11, 2008
    Detroit, MI
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ooooh Nice one on the Crew!

    Let me ask you something kiddo, how often do you attend MI Bucks games? How often do you attend anything soccer related in Metro Detroit?

    Metro Detroit and MI's economy is in the crapper. It's not expected to recover any time soon. Do you honestly think that people, in this economic climate, are going to shell out additional precious dollars to support a SOCCER team in Detroit?

    http://www.crainsdetroit.com/sectio...cript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest

    Every major league team's attendance is down with the exception of Hockey. Though to be honest, the last few Red Wings games I've gone to there have been a few more empty seats then I was used to seeing.

    I find it hard to believe that we could pull 20,000 people per game. Don Garber wants more Torontos and Seattles. Do you honestly think he's going to take a chance on Detroit when there are other towns with far more soccer history and also have ESTABLISHED professional teams? We have the MI Bucks. And as much as I love going to Buck's games, the attendance isn't exactly over flowing.

    Now, if you want to discuss Detroit and it's prospects for MLS further, I'm all about it. But stick to Detroit. Stop trying to pull Rivalry crap with the Crew.
     
  25. blazindw

    blazindw Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just to clarify that article, it didn't mention the Tigers, which actually went up from last year...over 3 million people went to Tiger home games last season.
     

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