Signing of 08/09

Discussion in 'Premier League' started by thebigman, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. RichardHKirkando

    RichardHKirkando New Member

    Aug 9, 2006
    Madison, WI
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the fee and the 4-year, £50k/week contract for an injury-prone 30 year old, it was a questionable buy even if he doesn't re-injure his knee.
     
  2. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    What does that have to do with him? It might be relevant if he was a total failure but that clearly does not apply to Berbatov.

    When anyone signs a player they are expected to deliver. Berbatov has delivered yet he was put above numerous expensive strikers (relative to the standing of their club) that have not. Your comment about Berbatov and Shevchenko being different players is very relevant because you directly compared their goal output when their respective roles were completely different. Berbatov was signed to be our offensive pivot while Shevchenko was signed to be one of Chelsea's primary goal scorers. The grumblings over Shevchenko were threefold and revolved around whether Chelsea needed him in the first place or not, his age (as he turned 30 at the start of his first Chelsea season and, finally, his transfer fee. That was before he had even kicked a ball. So-called fans can boo Berbatov all they want but they are merely highlighting their ignorance to his game/role and their spoilt nature.

    Care to quote where I stated it was your ranking?

    I fundamentally disagree that injured players should be considered above players who are fully fit and simply not performing. It is not about making excuses but looking at contributing factors instead of making simplistic decisions about a player. Transfer fee and injuries should not be given more importance than performance.
     
  3. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    He was not great in his last couple of seasons at Boro, certainly not noticably better than Jones or Turnbull have been. He had been there a long time and probably gone a bit stale - a change of scenary can work for a player in that situation.
    He also wanted more money and a longer contract than they were prepared to give him.
     
  4. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Worse signing of the season? Barry Ferguson - who has destroyed his Scotland future and embarrassed his club - all through being a cowardly d!ck and signing shielded V's behind his Managers back. It's not as if Scotland is overly blessed with decent players compared to past decades and this could really hurt the Scottish team.
     
  5. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    this isnt fergasons 1st season at rangers so he doesnt count
     
  6. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    I being too subtle for you. Barry Ferguson was not signed this season. He did however get in trouble for signing V's behind his managers back! ;)
     
  7. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    ah udid me there
     
  8. Pazarius

    Pazarius New Member

    Jan 10, 2004
    England
    It depends on exactly what you mean by worst signing. Looking at transfer fees is an easy (albiet flawed) way to quantify expectation level, which I (and I believe most people) think is an important factor in judging signings. If you don't factor in expectation level, and judge purely on performance, then the worst signing will technically be some free transfer that no-one has ever heard of who was terrible in reserve games. If you use transfer fee as a proxy for expectation level, then it is equally as important as performance, as it indicates what level of performance the player should be reaching. A poor player for Man Utd may after all be a great player for West Brom.

    You can certainly argue that Berbatov has been playing better than some posters are implying, but surely you must see that Berbatov's £30m fee puts much higher expectations on him than any of the other players considered. If he played at the same level as average £10m signing, that would imply that £20m has been wasted.
     
  9. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    The vast majority of Man Utd signings will be for inflated transfer fees for a variety of reasons. Does that mean they should all have an inflated expectation level by default?
     
  10. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    completely

    united have built their pedastool through sucess so they are viewed under a microscope

    u should know this by now teso
     
  11. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    big soccer yes.....well done
     

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