Sign Isak or Give Arteta The Sack - Summer 2025 Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by CarlosKaiser, Feb 8, 2025.

  1. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    Isak to LFC is way more than the EPL, LFC gotta think CL champs. I don't see us beating them. I can easily see them getting mid 90s point wise. The only thing between them and the title are 1. their defense and 2. our attack.

    We've only gotten to 90 points once as a club. Its going to take a crazy amount of effort, luck and a fireproof game strategy for us to win it. I can easier see an FA or league cup. We are definitely a SF CL quality side. We got to the semis with a lot of injuries last season.

    Chelsea scare me....a lot. Banish the thought, but I can see them 2nd this season challenging into the spring for the title. By challenging I mean in touching distance like we did. They are on a roll.
     
  2. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Liverpool's big problem is that VVD is 34 years old. He was good last year, but the season before that we did unspeakable things to VVD at the Emirates.
     
  3. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Liverpool in talks for Marc Guehi, Palace might be interested in replacing him with Kiwior.
     
  4. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we don't need him and they do so likely they get him
     
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  5. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    We've beaten Liverpool like twice in the last 4 or 5 years. Its the one time we can't seem to win away and we always seem to get a draw.
    While I agree VVD is up there in age, he's better than most defenders in the league. He needs replacing eventually, sooner than later. Injuries to their central defense is what's hurt them the most.
     
  7. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    I'm not as big of an Eze fan as most. If he get him fine, but I think we can do better. At this late stage in the game, probably not with the time constraints of getting someone in.
     
  8. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    I'm neutral on Eze, IMO Oliseh was the bigger talent but that's neither here nor there. The real issue we have is chance creation. What would Eze do in our team? would he play as a defacto left winger who drifts in while Calafiori holds width while we're in posession? Because we need more chance creation from central areas and with Gyokores i assume that's something Arteta wants.
     
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  9. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I think we will see more uses of a ten this season and Eze is the best in the league.
     
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  10. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    No Son is potentially big for Spurs. I thought so with Kane leaving and it eventually proved correct but they also suffered massive injuries last season. They have a decent midfield. With Maddison out, they'll struggle.

    Curious to see how City fares. They are the wild card. Will Pep have back to back bad seasons. As far as I know it hasn't happened.
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Jonathan Wilson's Libero podcast had an excellent episode about this. Generally I don't follow Wilson much anymore as he is a bit yesterday's man since the proliferation of data analysis - but he is excellent on the broader historical sweeps of football.

    Two things really went wrong for Guardiola which suggest maybe he was ready to retire but now is staying on to see if he can fix this.

    First he renewed this team too late - probably banking he could get another year or so out of it. But when you look at that midfield of Rodri, DeBruyne and Gundogan (as his swiss-german army knife) - it's to die for. But they got old all at once.

    Secondly there is a trend towards even younger players, and loosening the tactical reins a bit. So that means a sea change in recruitment for city who until now, have been excellent at buying more developed players going into their peak years

    Pep's time at the top has already been much longer than is usual. This will be his tenth season at City, which is more than his entire time at Bayern & Barca combined by some distance now. According to Wilson a 10 year peak is more usual.

    So it might be like Klopp that his time at the absolute peak is over - though clearly even a lower level than that is a very high level. Or does he have the energy to reinvent himself yet again?

    Highly recommend a listen
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Libero also has highly entertaining episodes on the shit show at Utd and the decline of Jose
     
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  13. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll have to check it out. I used to really like Wilson too, but lately on the Guardian pod he's as annoying as all the other twats on there----AuClair and Bandini being notable exceptions.
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I think his great strength is as a historian of the game

    Like now that you can see 10 to 20 year sweeps he shows how somewhere around 2008 for instance, football began to change quite quickly away from the control managers like Jose and Rafa

    Whereas the likes of Ancelotti and Pep have adapted. At one point it seemed Carlo was done, yet he had a whole second peak

    Wenger is kind of between that somewhere. He adapted to survive in that era but never really embraced the new ways enough. I guess his decline was really evident from around 08?

    But Wilson's point is it's still a very high level - Pep could struggle on for many years, though it seems he might exit more quickly like Klopp

    Where Wilson is weak is the actual game analysis.
     
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  15. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wilson's non-history articles are usually an angry version of Barney Ronay.
     
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  16. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    So the midfield is Eze, Rice and Zubimendi? I'm hoping that means Gabriel is captain. Or are we playing with just one of Rice/Zubimendi?
     
  17. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    Son has declined and spurs did a smart thjng by cashing in

    they will be fighting for Europa
     
  18. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Depending on opponents there could be games where you see us play more narrow and play a 4-2-3-1 with it being
    Zubi/Rice
    Saka/Ode/Eze
    Gyokeres or Kai.

    Sure you lose Martinelli's pace, but to be fair against a low block when he has a lot of possession he doesn't do a lot with it. Would much rather have Eze on the left (fairly sure he is right footed) being able to cut in while Saka can on the RW and Odegaard is more central playing off Gyokeres.

    The depth we now have means there are a lot of options.

    Alternatively when we are dominating teams I would love to see us go to a back 3 of Saliba/Gabriel/Calafiori who is comfortable in that formation, but you could also do White/Saliba/Gabriel and that gives us another attacking option.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    In so many ways the guardian football analysis has become worthless IMO
     
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  20. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best in the league is kind of a hot take.
    Pretty sure he's not even the best in London
     
  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It was ever thus.
     
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  22. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh? France??

    Edit: apologies for any late replies here by me. I’ve been iff on some family duty.
     
  23. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Who is better?
    Actually take it back, I will give you Palmer.
     
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  24. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve stuck my toe in the water of a podcast called “it was what it was“ with Wilson and another guy whose name escapes me. Have learned a few things especially the long view historical context that Jitty was talking about. But haven’t decided yet on whether I stick with that pod and listen to many more shows … selectively.
     
  25. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wilson's historical knowledge is next level, and I really enjoyed Inverting the Pyramid---would love to see it updated. But on the Guardian pod, he just comes off as a bit of a crank---not as much as Glendenning, which would be quite the feat, but one nevertheless.
     

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