SI and soccer

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by detter7, Aug 1, 2002.

  1. detter7

    detter7 New Member

    Jun 14, 2000
    PA
    In the ongoing saga of soccer and Sports Illustrated, the current edition (w/ Lance Armstrong on the cover), the is another letter to the editor about soccer, asking that the WC not be like the Super Bowl (as if the two are even close), mention of the All-Star game, and a little blurb on Gazza going to DC. Has SI heard out cries for a just a little more respect, or is this a quickly fading phase?
     
  2. branko97

    branko97 Member

    May 30, 2001
    New York City
    hopefully not. My sources tell me the Mathis and Donovan SI covers did "pretty well" at the newsstand (pulling about what Tiger Woods did with his most recent cover).

    Hope to have more concrete info soon.
     
  3. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so what did the letter say exactly?
     
  4. helmet

    helmet New Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Jose
    I will subscribe to SI when the offer "Inside Soccer" more frequently or add a "Soccer Plus" bonus section to subscribers. I will not until then.

    But what did the letter say?
     
  5. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    That's fine, but make sure you buy them on the newstand when they do have those sections (and let them know why you're buying it). Newstand purchases (from what I understand) drive content a lot more than subscriptions.
     
  6. helmet

    helmet New Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Jose
    Re: Re: SI and soccer

    I bought all of the issues in the last months with soccer featured. The writing in the magazine is good. It is a far better read than ESPN the magazine. (Sorry Jeff.)
     
  7. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: SI and soccer

    Do it. And let the English see you do it.
     
  8. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    I bought two copies of each the Mathis and Donovan covers. I bought one for myself and I framed the cover of the other.
     
  9. crestuden

    crestuden New Member

    Apr 5, 2001
    In the magazine with Lance Armstrong on the cover there is a mention of Gazza's trial with DC United. Also in that issue there was a list of ways to improve baseball and one of them was having a World Tournament similar to the World Cup.
     
  10. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll say it again.

    2002 marked the arrival of international soccer as a mainstream sport in US media.
     
  11. genpabloescobar

    Feb 17, 2002
    There was also a long article about the WNBA, and I'm paraphrasing here, but they talked about the catch 22 - the WNBA would do better if there was more media coverage but the media coverage is reflective of the perceived interest of the league. They even admitted they'd barely covered it.

    Replace WNBA with soccer, and you get the same discussion that people have been having on here since the birth of the boards.
     
  12. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    At the risk of turning this into yet another baseball thread, they always have this suggestion. What was interesting was SI's suggestion last summer that baseball have a US Open Cup style tournament for all professional baseball clubs. I wouldn't mind seeing that.

    Sachin
     
  13. FootyMundo

    FootyMundo New Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Minneapolis
    An international baseball tournament would be a total snooze. First, I'm sure such a thing already exists - we just don't send our best players. Second, what on earth would the tournament look like.

    USA
    Cuba
    D.R. (man what a team they can field)
    Japan
    Korea
    Venezuela
    Nicaragua
    Panama
    Mexico
    Colombia

    I'm already stretching the bounds of decency here already. Once you get past the first six teams it really falls off the charts. Sure there is some minor interest in Australia, Russia, Holland, Italy, etc. - sort of like America has an interest in Rugby. We send a team and they get the crap kicked out of themselves.
     
  14. type_32

    type_32 New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    (Apologies for turning this into a baseball thread.)

    First off, this was also true of basketball in 1992 when the Dream Team killed everyone. There was interest in Spain, Italy, and some former Soviet Republics, but everyone else was awful. Now look at the state of world basketball. I am not suggesting that there's a causal relationship, but international exposure in middling baseball countries can only help the game.

    Second, and this is nit-picky, Australia has produced an enormous number of players who have played in the US, the most famous being Graham Lloyd and Dave Nilsson. They may not be up to the level of DR or Cuba, but they're certainly way beyond Russia, Italy or Holland.
     
  15. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe the Braves' pitcher tonight, Damian Moss, is Aussie.

    Pitched a one-hitter.
     
  16. Godot22

    Godot22 New Member

    Jul 20, 1999
    Waukegan
    SI's suggestion was to have a six-team tournament: USA, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Japan, either Canada or Puerto Rico and an all-star team of the best from the rest of the world.

    That would be a competitive tournament.
     
  17. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    See for yourself.


    http://www.baseball2001.com/english/index.asp

    Participating teams on left.
     
  18. type_32

    type_32 New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    A baseball tournament without Cuba is pointless.
     
  19. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    So getting back on track:

    What was in the letter to the editor?

    Sachin
     
  20. Popero

    Popero Member

    Jul 5, 2002
    CT
    World View

    Finally some World Cup coverage aobut countries other than the U.S. (Seize the Day, July 8). You've already Americanized every other sport; please, don't turn the World Cup into the Super Bowl.

    -Gabriel Venditti, Palgranve, Ont.

    Also in this SI, a good shot of the Red Sox kicking the Orioles' asses.
     
  21. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Re: World View

    I guess articles on Bora, Owen and Maradona in the past six months aren't enough. :rolleyes:

    Sachin
     
  22. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah. my fellow Americans...let me quell your pain...

    Most of us remain so damn ignorant, in infallible lockstep only with what Brokaw, Jennings and Rather (or, more specifically in this case, Eisen, Scott, Patrick, and Rhome) decide to tell us about the world...

    The GAISF is the association comprised of most, if not all, the world governing bodies of sport. just because we decide that the NBA or MLB national championships (yes, I know about Canada and the NBA and MLB, but its still pretty much a natonal championship) are "world championships" doesn't mean that are...not at all.

    Indeed, almost all of the world governing bodies have a true World Championship for their sport. Check it out.

    http://www.agfisonline.com/en/members.phtml

    There is nothing wrong with the IBAF's current Baseball World Cup format. For SI to "propose" a world championship is the height of ignorance. And all this from a pub that reps itself as the be-all and end-all of sports...no wonder we can't get knowledgable soccer coverage without it becoming an "interest piece"...
     
  23. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: World View

    I love this sentiment. I mean, to what does it refer? Baseball? How can you Americanize that? Basketball? heh heh heh

    What sport have we Americanized? Seriously, name one. Maybe they're referring to stuff like ice dancing, I don't know.

    When someone spits out this, it's a pretty clear sign that they can't think, but only regurgitate undigested s***.
     

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