Shoutouts on CNNSI.com

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by cpwilson80, Dec 17, 2002.

  1. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some early stocking stuffers:

    #2 on the Top Stories--
    Net Gain

    Grant Wahl's Ups and Downs on Soccer--
    Wahl on Soccer

    If you click long enough, you get pictures of Brazil and LA in the Champions Section, but I'll be damned if I'm linking those pics ;)

    And, as always, get out the vote--
    We have the facts and we're voting yes
     
  2. delo_pata

    delo_pata Member

    Jan 12, 2001
    Durham, NC
    And don't forget Frank DeFord doing his obligatory blow-a-booger-at-soccer schtick in his commentary on Sport in 2002.
     
  3. Scoey

    Scoey Member

    Oct 1, 1999
    Portland
    Just bumping this up to the top so everybody remembers to rock the vote. We need all the support we can get!
     
  4. helmet

    helmet New Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Jose
    All the soccer categories seem to be doing well right now, but there are only about 50 total votes per category.
     
  5. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Who cares?
     
  6. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. Ignore the negative, focus on the positive.
     
  7. delo_pata

    delo_pata Member

    Jan 12, 2001
    Durham, NC
    Stupidity, ignorance, and prejudice should always be confronted, attacked, and destroyed regardless of whether it's a broader societal issue or sport "journalism."
     
  8. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    To be deleted by the first mod here ;)

    How did Grant miss out on the obvious match fixing, not to mention flag stealing during the WC. Those Korean fans were not nice at all.
     
  9. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yea. Let's force everyone to love soccer. Then we'll have peace on earth. :rolleyes:
     
  10. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you are honestly going to compare a rant from a dying breed of sportscaster to, say, ethnic cleansing, racism or homophobia, well then, I think we are operating on different levels. Hell, this isn't even Andy Rooney railing on women sideline reporters.

    If people are allowed to dislike certain sports. It's how they voice their displeasure that matters. Don't look at Deford's one baseless paragraph, look at Grant Wahl's articles or the fact that SI recognized the US team as one of the biggest stories of the year. The positive from the same source far outweigh the minor negative.

    Check out ESPN, the favorite whipping boy around here. Did you watch PTI last night? They mentioned Arena's new contract just like all the other bits of news. Did you watch Sportscenter last night? They reported on Landon Donovan's signing just like the rest of the stories that night. No snide remarks, no bickering, no sarcasm -- just legit reporting.

    I understand sticking up for soccer, but choose your fights wisely.
     
  11. topcow

    topcow New Member

    Nov 23, 2000
    New York
    We will.
     
  12. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were breathing differently when they reported on soccer, I just know it. :D
     
  13. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    Re: Re: Shoutouts on CNNSI.com

    Through their mouths, I bet.
     
  14. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    It's a shame the latest crash ate the Monday Night Football sucks thread over in Other Sports. That way we could've seen how tolerant soccer fans are of other sports.
     
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    falcon?
     
  16. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    I like Grant, and I enjoy his writing, but to lump in Spain's reactions to the S. Korea game where some admitted mistakes were made (I mean, if you bring up the non-call in the Germany match, you can't ignore the several in ESP-KOR) as opposed to Italy where their objective seemed to be not to play, and not to allow the Koreans to play, either...it's just wrong.

    Portugal were poor sportsmen. So were Italy. France went out bickering with each other.

    But you can hardly place any blame on the Spaniards, whose leave of the tournament was not far different that the Irish that you so upheld.
     
  17. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was the one thing that rubbed me a little wrong about Grant's article. Spain really did deserve to beat Korea, with two legit (called back) goals.

    Don't get me wrong, I like Grant and he's entitled to his opinion, but Spain's exit from the Cup was a low point as much as Korea's success and fans were a high-point.

    Just checked the votes and they are significantly in favor of all of the soccer categories, which is funny because I don't even agree with some of them, namely that France's exit from the World Cup was the biggest flop. Give that to the US Basketball team, they are more of a dynasty in basketball than Brazil is in soccer. That was a flop!
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that continues, it's going to put some people here out of business. ;)
     
  19. edcrocker

    edcrocker Member+

    May 11, 1999
  20. helmet

    helmet New Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Jose
  21. I know everyone was waiting to hear what I have to say on this. Deford and Bryant Gumbel will pobably do a piece on HBO about how soccer is for cromags.
     
  22. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And we should care about what they say because ...
     
  23. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    Anyone else get the feeling that Bigsoccer people are just bitchslapping the hell out of that pole?
     
  24. Your right we shouldnt care. But then there would no posts in the Business and Media section of Bigsoccer.
     
  25. Scoey

    Scoey Member

    Oct 1, 1999
    Portland
    I wondered about that. There have been between 300 to 400 votes (depending on the category), and soccer is winning every category its in. BS folks have tried to bitch-slap many, many polls before, and it has almost always failed. However, with such a small number of votes, it's entirely possible that BS has significantly swayed the results.
     

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