Two guys who would hardly be unbiased observers of the incident. The burden of proof is equally on you then to indicate that the Reagan Administration's day-later account is accurate. Here's a hint: it wasn't. I think the US will be playing with itself unless the UN somehow manages to pass sporting sanctions on Russia despite Russia having a security council veto.
My opinion. That is not how debate works. I present my argument and proof. You present yours. I look forward to your proof. I don't know. If Europe really wanted to send a message - that would be a big message. I don't think Europe really wants to send a message though. Then they deserve what they get then.
By that measure we should be kicked out from international competitions forever. I mean our actions with the drone program and zealous prosecution of suspected terrorists has killed a helluva lot more innocent people than were on that plane. What bunch of semantic pooh actions are generally informed by policy.Drawing arbitrary distinctions to make us look better is so 'merican of you.
This is a politics thread, but @Schapes seems to know that already. Please don't start threads like this in News and Analysis again. I've moved it to the Politics forum.
I agree that it should be in Politics forum, although it's now in the News (see link), so should it go back to News and Analysis? Even though I think it's a bad idea to boycott Russia, apparently Germany is publicly floating this idea now. http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...of-world-cup-2018-germany-makes-the-argument/
Odd that someone would be so trusting of Reagan Administration officials' accounts but not be willing to spend a few minutes digging for other information. Here's the wikipedia page for it. And if you don't like that, there are a ton of citations there that will provide you with useful information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Given the tone this thread immediately took in the US forum, I'm reasonably confident that it will be mostly politics-driven going forward. It's also not necessarily US-specific enough. This isn't intended to stifle conversation of the matter, because it's certainly worthy of discussion; it just strikes me as better suited for P+CE for now.
I'm boycotting the Moon in the year 3030. I have it on good authority there will be Mooninite atrocities prior. Already they taunt me.
Welcome back Schapesbot! I was going to seriously reply to you until I realized who you were. The accounts on the internet in which what an idiot Capt. Rogers is shown to be is accurate. I was in the gulf at that time, the guy was a ********ing cowboy that got away with murder.
FIFA should take the World Cup away for the invasion and annexation of Crimea and portions of the eastern Ukraine.