I am not referring to going back to the tradition year long season... I am talking about the qualifying process... I think the League championship should be awarded to the best team who leads the standings at the end of the regular season. The Cup Championship should be that one who wins the liguilla. The cup champion and the league Champion should play each other for the supercup. this is how we use to do it....but with some minor changes. I would also go back to 18 teams in the top flight rather than 20. I am skpetical about the Copa Comex now. the winner of each tournament is suppose to play this Cup..... but... teams change and the cup may not be exciting... Pachuca went from champs to chump. Toluca doesnt have that spark anymore this season...
I would change the League format if and only if the MFL was awarded two spots in the CONMEBOL Copa Libertadores. This way we can eliminate the Liguilla (giving all clubs equal time for the pre season) and the team with the most points obviously wins the League. I would also like to see a Cup championship but with the participation of Second and Third Division teams. The Cup would be played throught the whole year allowing the Clubs to field their best possible squads. Thus at the end of the year we would have two league champions (Apertura and Clausura) and the Cup Champion. The winners of the Clausura and Apertura would get direct acess to the Copa Libertadores, the two runner ups will get to play the Pre Libertadores against the Venezuelan Clubs and the Cup Champion gets to play the TFC CC. Since the MFL gets 4 spots for the TFC CC the remaing three slots can go to the Clubs with the best percentage avg at the end of the year. This way the "Tabla de porcentaje" can be more than just a Relegation chart.
I say it should be just like La Liga. And if we keep 20 teams then 4 should be relagated and 4 should be promoted every year.
I really like your idea but have several questions. Would there be a League champion for the both the Apertura and Clasura and also a Cup Champion for both the Apertura and Clasura? Would the Supercup winner of the Apertura play against the Supercup winner of the Clasura for the Super Super Cup?
Re: Re: Should the MFL change its league format? Yes, there would be a league champion and cup champion for each season. No need to play the winner of each season. In my mind... it would have been more exciting to watch America and Toluca play each other for the super cup...(america being overall point leaders and toluca being liguilla champs) If you go back to 18 teams in the first division that means there will each team will play 17 regular season games per season. Also, eradicate the reclasification (repechaje) process and have the best 8 teams go into the liguilla. Forget the group format. Currently this is what we have... 19 games in the regular season played every week end. 2 games of repechaje which is played in one week (3-4 days apart) 2 games of quaterfinal matches which is played in one week (3-4 days apart) 2 games of semifinal matches which is played in one week (3-4 days apart) 2 games of championship matches which is played in one week (3-4 days apart) 25-27 matches If you modify it, this is how it would look... 17 games in the regular season played every week end. (superleader is crowned league champ) 2 games of quaterfinal matches which is played in one week. Best 8 teams according to the table (3-4 days apart) 2 games of semifinal matches which is played in one week (3-4 days apart) 2 games of championship matches which is played in one week. Liguilla winner is Cup champ. (3-4 days apart) 2 games of champions Cup matches which is played in one week (3-4 days apart) Winner is Super Cup Champ 25 matches (More silverware, more bragging rights, and a foundation for newer rivalries) lets be honest... I dont think we can have a cup similar to spain's Copa del rey where its open to all divisions... we compete in 3 different tournaments... And even if CONMEBOL were to allow us direct participation,, our second division is not like Spains.... many of our second division teams are there to stay and cant get a ticket to the first round because they are just their to provide for the first division.
Re: Re: Re: Should the MFL change its league format? So let me see if I got this straight. There will be a Super Cup winner for both the Apertura and Clasura each year. The two will not meet at the end of the year for a Super Super Cup. A Super Cup winner from the Apertura can be a much different (worse) team having to go up against the current Supercup winner of the Clausra. I really like this Super Cup idea.
Perhaps 3 changes Certainly a reduction back to 18 teams would be optimal. Twenty doesn't make for more exctiment it just creates a dilution of quality players and resources. Since the end of the first short tournament there has always been a problem with 'post playoff fatigue' especially if the team had a run in Libertadores. I'm still deciding if leaving the transfer window open longer would alos be better.
I would say to keep the format how it is right now. The league hasn't had this format for 10 years. Maybe in 2006 they could evaluate the situation. It's an interesting proposal though. Oh, and I'd love to see the league go down to 18 teams if the league gets rid of Tecos and Colibries.
Too many Cups and SuperCups will make winning them diluted, it will be similiar to playing the World Cup every year and would just lose Prestigue since in any given sunday even the weakest team could win. We need a format that benefits the best side, not one where weak teams are given too many oportunities. Where is the incentive to build up a strong side when each year there is up to 4 local Championships in dispute !?!? Finally a Cup similiar to the Copa Del Rey will work out because of the single game elimination which can easily be scheduled. I feel many Mexican 2nd Div sides (Leon/Irapuato) are strong enough to compete in the TFC CC and win it.
Too many Cups and SuperCups will make winning them diluted, it will be similiar to playing the World Cup every year and would just lose Prestigue since in any given sunday even the weakest team could win. I dont see how having the best team throughout the season playing a final against the Liguilla champ would be considered diluted. Its better than having the number 8 and number 7 play in the liguilla final. One way they try to avoid dilution is the reclassification process... but no need for that. Just get the top 8 teams from the standings and problem solved. The Super Cups from back then were mostly played with teams from the first division. I bleieve only 5 years or so... did they allow teams from the 2nd division. all I am saying is that consistency should be commended. One hit wonders are nice...but thats it We need a format that benefits the best side, not one where weak teams are given too many oportunities. eradicate the groups Where is the incentive to build up a strong side when each year there is up to 4 local Championships in dispute !?!? The liguilla is there to make money, spread the wealth, and not so much to determine the best. Finally a Cup similiar to the Copa Del Rey will work out because of the single game elimination which can easily be scheduled. It wont work VS. The lower divisions are subsidized. The majority of 2nd division teams are on welfare. In order for that to work, the FMF will have to go through a major renovation process that could take years and years, maybe decades. That means the FMF will have to tell the lower division teams to start making thier own money and worry about putting thier own bread on the table. most clubs in the lower division are not able to go out in the real world and maintain with themselves. They have silver spoons in thier mouths. Not all of them.. but a good chunk of them. Do you really think Toluca beating Atl. Mexiquenense during the week is something to talk about? Or how about Cruz Azul beating Cruz Azul Hidalgo? Or Santos beating Zacatecas? Or Tigres beating Tigrillos? Or Chivas beating Tapatia? For us to have a true national Cup similar to Copa del Rey or Coppa Italia and be considered legit in the eyes of the public, daddy will have to take the silver spoon away and put Club Jr. up for adoption. I feel many Mexican 2nd Div sides (Leon/Irapuato) are strong enough to compete in the TFC CC and win it. Leon is affiliated with Morelia and are getting money from Tv Azteca
I do like the idea of the season leader being the Champion and then having the both season Champs facing each other to end up with a super champ.
Re: Re: Should the MFL change its league format? Originally posted by ************ I dont see how having the best team throughout the season playing a final against the Liguilla champ would be considered diluted. The fact that 5 Championships will be played in one year, that is what makes winning them weak. The WC wouldnt be as coveted if it was played annualy. Two SuperCup champions each year !?? It wont work VS. The lower divisions are subsidized. The majority of 2nd division teams are on welfare. In the Copa del Rey the first rounds are single game elimination. The weakest teams get eliminated early but benefit from attendance if the game is in their stadium or TV money if its an away game. All the FMF needs to do to kickstart this Cup is get a Corporate Sponsership and the prize money for winning this Cup woukld make the competition better.. Leon is affiliated with Morelia and are getting money from Tv Azteca And Televisa owns CA, Necaxa and San Luis so whats your point ?
Re: Re: Re: Should the MFL change its league format? The fact that 5 Championships will be played in one year, that is what makes winning them weak. The WC wouldnt be as coveted if it was played annualy. Two SuperCup champions each year !?? You are comparing 2 totally different things with the World Cup and our league. Weak? How so? the best and most consistant team will play against the winner of the liguilla. If the money is right, which I know the FMF can dish out... nothing weak about the cup. In the Copa del Rey the first rounds are single game elimination. The weakest teams get eliminated early but benefit from attendance if the game is in their stadium or TV money if its an away game. All the FMF needs to do to kickstart this Cup is get a Corporate Sponsership and the prize money for winning this Cup woukld make the competition better. You are mising the point. You just want to have one for the sake of having one but fail to look at the makeup and infrastructure of the lower division. DOnt get me wrong, having an Cup similar to the Copa del Rey would be awsome. But we are decades from having something similar to that. most teams in the 2nd division are subsidized and the people know it. Do you honestly think any one would care or even think highly of Toluca if they beat or eliminate At. Mexiquenese? Atl. Mex. is Toluca's team. Not all the money will give this Cup any legitimacy. THe people know the 2nd division is subsidized. Attendance? TV? you are dreaming if you think that will attract attendance. And forget TV revenue.. And Televisa owns CA, Necaxa and San Luis so whats your point ? you really dont know where I am getting at do you?
changes in the MFL http://www.reforma.com/deportes/articulo/304327/ Acuerdos - Fue rechazada una propuesta de Chivas para eliminar la reclasificación. - En la etapa de Cuartos de Final de la Liguilla sólo se jugarán dos partidos por día. Dos en miércoles y dos en jueves, dos en sábado y dos en domingo. - En Liguilla, ya no se llamarán juego de ida y juego de vuelta, sino primer juego y segundo juego. - Se eliminó el Gol de Oro y ahora habrá Gol de Plata, el cual obliga a jugar la totalidad del tiempo extra en que se anote un tanto. - Para la inscripción de jugadores se mantuvo al futbolista como único responsable de la legitimidad de los documentos que muestre ante la Federación con fines de registro. - Se ratificó el límite de edad para el uso del carnet único que es de 22 años y 11 meses y sólo dos excepciones de mayor edad. - El Torneo de Apertura siempre iniciará la primera semana de agosto, mientras que el de Clausura, a la tercer semana de enero. - Se obliga a todos los equipos que jueguen de locales a proporcionar una escolta vial de seguridad que permita el desplazamiento del visitante con libertad. - Sólo se aplicará veto a plaza por una causa grave, previo análisis. - A cada equipo se le solicitará una carta de crédito por 10 millones 500 mil pesos. - El Citlalli será sustituido por el Balón de Oro. - El Juego de Estrellas sólo se jugará una vez por temporada en fecha aún por definir.
Now, I agree that there should be a limit in the number of extranjeros that a team is allowed to have. I don't know what the number should be, but I don't want to see a mexican team with no mexicans. But to tell a team that they're only allowed to have one naturalizado, is not only morally wrong, but against the Mexican Constitution. But I guess this is not the first time they do something like this and get away with it.